Going Gold & System Specs {Speculation}

Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:18 pm

I would have been shocked if they did anything BUT steam for PC activation lol

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Wayland Neace
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:37 am

svcks for anyone who hates Steam, yeah, but hey, I appreciate the Latin you threw in there.

So, they release the system specs at the same time as they go Gold? Or do you think they dropped them early?

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Madeleine Rose Walsh
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:52 pm

Dude, I know how you feel. I am an old timer myself (my first "mods" were WADS). I have been ranting about the steam system for many many years because once the kids get use to their software being sold to them that way they will grow up to accept it for more serious programs. And now I see that happening with such real world programs like Autocad.

Years ago I read an article from Autodesk that said they wanted to do that and had the system set up for it at that time but their customers would not accept it. Well that is not the world we live in now.

Soon ALL programs will be like that now.

And it is going to take a few times where a business cannot do ANYTHING when their internet is down or just the program service FOR TWO MONTHs (remember SONY?)

before any kind of corrections are made to this new way.

We have already lost the fight man. I feel you will regret cancelling your pip boy. I wish I had one coming but I do not own a CELL PHONE ( :yes: ) for both security and and personal reasons.

But I now regret not ordering the pip boy anyway.

" No, you can't always get what you want

But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need..."
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herrade
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:14 am

Wow so Fallout 4 won't run on Windows ME? Preorder cancelled.

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Chad Holloway
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:20 am

My only problem with Steam is that in some point in the future, Steam will shut down its servers for good. Hopefully, this day will happen when I am having my eternal rest. Therefore all the games that people have bought, but not downloaded or played will be gone forever. I suspect that any game that is downloaded will still be playable.
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Steve Fallon
 
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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:51 pm

If that's what you feel the need to do. But I still think this is a bit drastic.

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Samantha Jane Adams
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:01 am

Thanks for your words and support guys, I really appreciated that, but, no, I'm going to cancel my Pip-boy edition preorder: someone other than me can enjoy it, someone else who doesn't care about the stuff I and many other guys do. People Bethesda/Zenimax want to buy and enjoy their games, people they like more than they like me.It isn't right and fair to support Bethesda/Zenimax anymore: there are developers/publishers that actually doesn't discriminate gamers so I better support them instead and there're independent developers in need of support who actually care about games and gamers without any discrimination.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:15 am



I see you point but get in my shoes for a moment: I don't use steam, I've bought Dishonored CE, Fallout New Vegas CE at the time knowing almost certainly I wouldn't be able to play them.
Since then they are sitting there collecting dust, never played, Dishonored is still sealed, shrink wrapped, pristine.
Basically I supported Bethesda policies I don't agree with and honestly it hurts me in the deep. I know these are first world problems and video games are just luxury goods not needed to survive, but they are my hobby and the passion of my life.

What's the point in buying FO4, another game I will never play and encourage Bethesda to keep their policies going?

I perfectly know my decision won't change anything because people like me mean nothing to Bethesda, but as a human being I feel that buying this game is not right for me and people like me.
I genuinely think FO4 is going to be a great game but, hey, you can't have everything even not just some things.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:29 am

There a comunistic-Faschist monopolistic co conspirator with BlizardEAActivision and are fully own by Konami. Also they were rude to Satoru Iwata. And lets not forget that Valve kicks puppys and goes around saying they read Playboy for the porm. Theres also soley Responsible for Jarjar, their CEO is Joe Quesada, and the President of the Steam Division is Chuck Austen.

In otherwords its kind of not very rational given that you can install steam and then uninstall it and it just works anyway,

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:44 pm

If you were so certain they were going to be Steam-only titles, why did you buy them before confirming that? I can understand hating Steam (I mean, ehhh), and I respect the crap out of actually voting with your wallet, but if it's that important to you shouldn't you be more cautious about how you spend things, instead of having pristine copies "collecting dust"? (and if they were unopened, why can't you return them?) I guess with the Pipboy Edition it was an impulse buy and you were just lucky to get an order in... but que sera sera.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:56 am

I vote with my wallet all the time.

I still see plastic Jars of so called Spaghetti sauce on the store shelves.

So yay wallet voteing.

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Post » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:46 pm

Before you cancel your preorder, I suggest you sell it. It is technically a collector's edition so an unopened copy would be worth more than what you paid for it.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:23 am

Democracy is non-negotiable.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:01 am

Monopoly? So origin and GOG don't exist?

How exactly is steam killing PC gaming? Seems to me that it's actually thriving. Ease of access, low prices, and variety of both AAA and indie titles. I don't see what is wrong with that. How is steam turning them into console games? The games are no different with the exception of their respective hardware. So I don't understand what you meant there.

What do you mean by discrimination? Is it because you're a Indie developer? Last I checked, steam has plenty of indie games on it.

'm having a really hard time understanding your gripe about it.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:51 am



Simple: I wasn't.
For New Vegas I dind't knew exactly: there're games where Steam is optional and not required and games that can be linked to Steam but don't have to. And in the doubt I chose to support Bethesda, I'm a good guy.
Dishonored: It was a mistake, plain and simple, and it is my fault, period, honestly I can sell it but as a principle I would hurt Bethesda/Zenimax sales, I know it doesn't count numerically but that's how I see things.

No, you have to understand that the Steam API is not something fixed you put in your code and that's it.
You choose what to use of the Steam API and since they are going for three different platform they have to have a common base code which they basically adapt to every platform.
Since they had to do this work of code adaptation I hoped that they could make Steam as an option (or non Steam as an option depending on your point of view) since not only is easily doable but they had to put their hands in the code anyway for consoles where Steam is not needed.
That's why I preordered the game, I like the lore, liked FO3 and I thought I can give them a chance.
But their will is to keep people like me away from their products basically and, hey, they can do what they want.

On a side note: now that Steam is making a coming up with "their own" hardware there's hope people will follow and maybe (pipe dream) developers and publishers will shift to Steam machines leaving the Windows market, I know, I know that's just dreaming, but dreams are for everyone. ;)

@Hydraengineer: I'm a guy like many others, and, like may others around here I chose my path in real life and this has nothing to do with me as a gamer, as a customer and as a human being, just like, believe it or not, many other around here.
Honestly your post seems to me just a flammatory attempt which I won't follow.
I spoke my mind clearly, with plenty of explanations, my english may be broken but people seems to understand and reply to my words and what I'm trying to express in a civil way.
I think that if you go back to and read carefully my previous posts you can understand what I'm getting to like other human beings around here and the internet did.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:14 am

I was caught out by the PC specs announcement.

I was expecting it to follow the announcement pattern of Skyrim and Fallout 3, both being released 2.5 weeks ahead of launch.

To my mind there is no reason to release the specs nearly five weeks ahead of launch unless Bethesda are feeling very comfortable about the game.

It further highlights the gallop that Skyrim went through to make the 11.11.11 release date set a year before.

And reassures me that Fallout 4 should be as far as reasonable a stable a low bug experience.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:16 am

The gallop? From the OP, it looks like they've dropped the PC specs for every game since Oblivion in that 2.5 week span, and Skyrim is no anomaly. Fallout 4 is the odd one out, but dropping the info earlier certainly is a sign that they're more confident, I'd say.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:40 am

You're quite correct, the PC specs dropped pretty consistently at 17 days / 19 days ahead of launch.

Though given that Skyrim went gold a week ahead of launch and due to a little bugginess, it game me the impression of working hard to 'make a sixy date'.

But yes, the current release is giving me good vibes.

I wonder if Bethesda will be dropping copies to reviewers in good time as early PC specs surely confirms the game is soon ready to mail to those folk.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:08 am

I am also getting "good vibes". But I don't know about the early reviewer copies. A trend in PC gaming lately seems to be not giving out early copies to reviewers, but rather to wait and give them out when a game releases. And with Bethesda being so committed to not "spoiling the story", I can see them going this route to avoid a reviewer giving away any of the story before launch.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:20 am

Reviewers got copies of Skyrim in time to get reviews out online a day or two before release, and I think some print reviews were out very soon after.

Bethesda might have gone for a review free launch this time, but I'd be surprised if at least large and reputable gaming sites/magazines didn't get review copies as it went gold.

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