I did a search on Google for "elder scrolls online buy gold" and I got a full page of gold spammer sites ready to start selling gold on Elder scrolls online.

So my question is what are you, Zenimax, going to do to protect the game from Gold spammers? (I realize I am on the gamesas forums but beta is down).

Those parasites are ready to start ruining my immersion, my chat window, and item prices so are you ready for them? They are ready for you.

You probably already got a keylogger just by visiting their site.

They'll probably make it so there's no gold in the game anywhere, and nothing can be bought or sold or traded, and the players have to run around naked because of not being able to afford repairs. That way gold sellers won't be able to farm gold at all!

I'm having flashbacks of rift.

[X] @@@@@@@ Do you need for Plat? @@@@@@@

We have best prices for you and be your super friend to level

with. Gold4newbs.com@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[cloudstryfeTifa] LFG group for blah blah

[X] @@@@@@@ Do you need for Plat? @@@@@@@

We have best prices for you and be your super friend to level

with. Gold4newbs.com@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[X] @@@@@@@ Do you need for Plat? @@@@@@@

We have best prices for you and be your super friend to level

with. Gold4newbs.com@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Anyone play aion? Holy moley that was bad. Couldn't even complete a quest because of the speed demon autobot minions farming all the mobs. I've even been in aion dungeons where players were botting.

I hope and pray that they have permanent round the clock GM's who's sole job is to sit there and zap and ban gold seller spam. Some MMO's handle it well (WaR and Rift were decent at it), others are abysmal at it (NWO is horrible about it).

In any case, after I settle into a few guilds and have a healthy friend's list built up, I'll end up turning off Zone chat altogether anyway.

Our mods here are volunteers so hopefully even if they can't pay roll someone they will take volunteers. I'd volunteer myself for a chance to see these parasites crushed to pieces and sent back to the hell they came from.

Just wait for the 1st addon that blocks that [censored]. WoW has BadBoy, which hides all gold spams, shouldn't be a problem to remake it for ESO.

A lot of this boils down to admins not actively patrolling appropriate merchant areas, people not having a real way of reporting gold spammers, and stuff like that. Who knows how this game will be, but it's this simple. /report GspammerNameHere, then log the robots chat. If GMs patrol places where chat spam is allowed and/or merchanting, it's easy to combat...most games don't do this, though and you'll see the same gold spammer for days, weeks, and some even months...and that's when you know they don't care. It's not hard to go from city to city or spawn gate to spawn gate to check in most games.

I know in Beta, one can click on an other player and select report. Fill in why the player is being reported and more they are reported the better.

I'm sure there will be developer tools to combat gold sellers, but do you know the real solution to this?

Don't. Buy. Gold.

Gold-sellers are always going to find ways to circumvent an existing system. Developers can only respond to those issues as they arise. And if people keep visiting gold-buying sites, then the spammers won't stop. It's really that simple.

Yes, but you know and I know that this won't happen. Someone somewhere will...like leaving a starving dog in a room with a plate of human food, then tell the dog it can't eat 'cuz it's bad for it's health...like it'll care. No point in telling them not to, someone will, especially if they want an edge or want to sell for themselves.

There WILL be gold sellers. ESO is not immune, any more than any other MMO. As long as there are people who will pay real money for in-game currency, there will exist people to meet that demand.

There is no way to stop it, but there are ways to make it less pervasive, and that is to make it more expensive to do, which in turn makes the in-game currency more expensive as the gold sellers pass the costs on to their customers. As the cost gets higher, fewer people are willing to pay it. The only way to do that is with good, old-fashioned MONEY. ZOS will have to hire a large team of CSRs to investigate and lock out those who are selling and buying gold for dollars. Automated systems can help, but not enough to make the cost high enough to actually affect the market. It takes actual human beings investigating the patterns that the automated systems uncover.

I seriously hope we have a way to report gold sellers and other spammers that also stops you from seeing their chat, without filling up your ignore list.

Ok, so rather than help create a playerbase that punishes these people, you want to already start placing blame on the developers?

There is literally nothing they can do to stop gold-selling. They can always update their filters or add security, but the developers can't stop people from selling gold if players want to buy it. And they will if the community collectively throws up its hands and says "Oh well, people are just going to do this." We can become more active about policing ourselves and making it clear that gold-buyers won't be tolerated in the game.

I thought you read my post before that and would have caught the part about /reporting...in no way am I putting it all on the shoulders of the game devs and GMs. If I do, however, decide to pay $15 a month for a game I will barely get my dollars worth (due to some months not being home at all, coming home for maybe a day IF I MAKE IT HOME, to get called out on another job) then I expect a game where the GMs and Devs actually do what they are paid to do unlike some MMOs. You need players and devs/GMs doing their part for this to work... (EDITED: took something out that I said in anger)

The problem is they change names every few hours or at most once a day. You can block sdfsfe but in a few hours his name will be asdfas. Thats not to discourage reporting, just to say that it's not enough.

This isn't nit-picking. It's exactly the same problem that repeats itself in every popular MMO.

The GMs are supposed to be in the game to assist players with in-game issues. Dealing with cheating/exploits is part of their job, but it isn't supposed to be the entire point. Sadly, that's changed over the years because players have decided that the developers are responsible for account compromises and gold-selling. They aren't. As unlikely as this is to happen, I'd like to get the ball rolling on creating a player community that understands this and takes it upon itself to inform the rest of the community about why gold-buying is bad. It's silly and pointless to rely on the developers to take care of that for us.

This.^

They will be around. They always are. But there are roadblocks here like the box fee, subscription, and lack of auction house. So they are going to rely on hacking more than ever to get their gold in ESO. This is actually a big concern of mine.

WOW had lite gold seller spaming, yes its hundreds of sites selling wow gold but lite in game advertising.

This because they have active mods and probably also tools who check chat and flag suspicious activity. simply flag anybody who post something containing (text).com regularly is one.

Getting caught and you might loose your account and have to re-purcase the game.

No danger with loosing you account for an add bot in an F2P game. They also tend to have fewer moderators.

I actually found the line of gold sellers outside the city gate in runes of magic funny.

When you block someone in ESO, it blocks their account. This doesn't help when they make a new account, but that is another small roadblock for them that doesn't exist in many MMOs.

name change cost real money, reports is linked to you account.

Note that moderators seldom react before they get an list of reports on an character. They also often wait until they see an pattern like an commonly used bot program before acting.

Hight chance gathering bots will be more of an problem as they are harder to catch, is the character just standing where afk, chatting or an bot.

Then I played wow bots on battlefields was an serious problem at least then playing at night.

I didn't know that, that is a pretty nice feature.

Gold-sellers don't take the time to do name changes. If an account they've compromised (they also don't use their own accounts) gets banned, they just move on to the next person who was dumb enough to give them their information.

What if they blocked the websites from being submitted in chat? So if the website is Gold4newbs.com they block any chat submission of the word Gold4newbs.com while putting that submission into a "bucket" to be reviewed by a person to determine if you are spammer. They could include variations like G o l d 4 n e w b s . c o m. These gold spammers won't survive if they have to change their website and if they can't tell people where to go in their spam there isn't much point to spamming.

Gold sellers and spammers get really creative using special characters. Anybody who's played NWO can attest to that. The "\_/\_/ \_/\_/ \_/\_/ , I /\/\ A G () |_ |) S P A /\/\ /\/\ E R , ( () /\/\" messages send the zone chat into perma spam. You'd be surprised how creative they get.

If ESO goes f2p we will have gold spammers on Chat and Mails. Please ESO don't go there!!! I've had just about enough of their gold spammers and that's why I quit swtor. I don't want to do the same for eso.

Thing only thing they need is your CC, Bank account, Password and once you go in, they got you in their web and you'll be the victim. I don't trust them, it's a fraud.