Just curious has it been confirmed yet if the Saints and Seducers are going to be in Skyrim they are two of ny favorite Daedra and I would love to see them return.

i wouldnt count on it

Don't they live in Sheogorath's realm or something?


The Dark Seducers were strangely hot.

I'd marry one of those dark seducers if I could.

They do but Golden Saints was in Morrowind and then they put them in Oblivion with the Shivering Isles download.

Well it is a possibility. But I know Dark Seducers are in service to many different Daedric Princes. The ones who serve Sheogorath are called the Mazken. The Golden Saints are in the service of Sheogorath primarily. And seeing as how the events of the Shivering Isles kind of made Sheo disappear and the CoC was the new mad god who knows how it is gonna work out? Id say both have a 50/50 chance of being in. Hopefully all the Daedra are in though. I thought it didn't make sense that they were not available for conjuration in Oblivion.

Golden Saints can be seen outside his realm in Morrowind, and I think the Daedra Seducer from Daggerfall is the same think as the Dark Seducer despite their extremely different designs.

Golden Saints were even summonable.

I am going to have to check out the Daedra Seduced I keep forgetting to look it up. I hope we can summon them again and just see them around and either fight them or talk to them like in the Shivering Isles I loved their gear in Oblivion.

I found Dark Seducers to be a little ridiculous. The equivalent to a daedric Bosmer.

Golden Saints were much better but they just didn't seem righteous enough for my tastes... I liked their golden clawed gauntlets and winged helms.

I should hope they are. They were amazingly well developed. And their armor was no joke, either.

I hope so, they were my fave quest in Shivering Isles, and were pretty awesome. Doubt they will be in Skyrim, but I would be happy if they were somehow in it.

I have the most sneaking suspicion that that was the point.

-DL :chaos:

They was developed really well I loved them both they are majestic creatures and I thought the armor was great they was truly unique.

You can always hope for the Golden Saints and the Dark Seducers to make a return in another ES game but I don't see it happening in skyrim. :mellow:

Meh. I'm more of a Golden Saint kinda guy myself.

I used console cheats to turn one of them into a companion, but it turns out they are rather incompetent companions. And just as dumb as the other ones.

Guess I'll just have to stick with turning them into living statues for my house. /sigh

Phew, glad I'm not alone on that. I never really felt "seduced" by any of the Dark Seducers. They just kind of sneered at me all the time.

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say that the changes we saw between Daggerfall/Battlespire Seducers, and Shivering Isle Seducers happened mainly because of all the shakeups that happened to Bethesda in the late 90's. Remember folks, that many of the key players left after Daggerfall, and the guy running the mad show, Julian LeFay, left after Battlespire was released, and subsequently bombed. Sure there's few hold outs left from the old days, Todd Howard being the most prominent example, but the creative team and direction is different then when it was back in 98. Despite Battlespire laying most of the foundation for the various daedra underlings we now know.



That really all depends on whether or not the mad god makes a return, if he does, I don't see why the Aureal wouldn't show up in this game, there to fascinating a species to pass up.

I find it so very odd that they were recently put into Sheogorath's realm. It's so freaking odd.

...no...

I'm rather confused by the correlation between the mad god returning, and the appearance of the Golden Saints. Others have said something similar as well, but the reason I am confused is they still existed after the CoC became Sheogorath, so it's reasonable to assume that they are still around... right?

Or maybe I just don't know the lore well enough.

Sheogorath's servants are golden saints and seducers? He's not the god of madness, he's freaking Hugh Hefner. That's the opposite of crazy, that's the run of the mill average.

Well I should hope so, my Nord CoC needs her Saint/Seducer male harem. :hubbahubba:

But yeah, there's nothing in the game that indicates that they vanished from the realms or anything.



Did this Hefner being you speak of ever order his playmates to quest for the Spork of Everlasting? No? Then Hefner and Shegorath are not the same, impudent mortal! Not even on Saint/Seducer naked peanut butter wrestling Tuesday!

I hope so, they were freaking neat, in one of my files I still have that Male Golden saint following me

Mmmmm...Dark Seducers & Golden Saints...Sheogorath was the original pimp...Unfortunately, I don't think we'll see them unless in mod form...

That's if your or I were commanding them. Shegorath would be more likely to order them to reenact the Battle of Britain, with paper airplanes.