Representative Marcus

Thank you, plasma casters are powerful weapons, and they will definitely help us in defending the farms.


A caravan hub in Bonnie Springs is an excellent idea, and giving you 30% of the profits is not a problem at all. We haven't occupied Bonnie Springs at all, but we did clear it of cazadors a while back, so it should only need some minor restoration work before it can become a caravan hub. I'll have some of my Mutants take of that though, so you can just have the caravans move in right away.

While I can't really speak for the Followers, I'm sure some of them would want to go to REPCONN and assist you. If you want I could send Dr. Henry over for a day or two so that he could trade knowledge and research ideas with your researchers at REPCONN. He may seem aloof at first, but he'll open up to other knowledgeable scientists.


Your generosity is much appreciated, thank you friends, Jacobstown is in your debt.

Thank-you.
We simply aim to strength our relationships with our allies, this deal will benefit both of us directly and the entire Mojave indirectly.

Representative Steve

*he chuckles softly under his wide brim hat
Wilson I would suspect you'd know better. The Gun Runners transport their guns with brahmin that they currently own, as do the Crimson Caravan. I believe there has been some misunderstanding about what the Greater Mojave Caravan Group would do. As of now we have to pay corrupt monopolistic organizations like Crimson Caravan to ship our goods in our own terrorites, groups run from the NCR. Now if by chance the NCR were to attack or relations change we would be at their mercy for things as simple as food and stimpaks. What I propose is that we aim for a pre war value of self sufficiency. The first step on that road is to depend on our own caravan services not that of the NCR. This wouldn't kick Crimson or the Gun Runners out, but would rather reallocate resources more effectively. What are House's thoughts on this plan Draiman?

Well I do not feel it is necessary fo rme to join then.

I have local caravans as well as NCR caravans, the local caravans keep Novac from going under, the NCR ones allow us to buy nice things.

Representative Steve

@Novac

And that's the thing, this won't stop you from buying from the NCR. The only change this makes is that the expenses and profits of the transport of goods across the Mojave will now fall on our communities not NCR caravans. This doesn't stop goods from the west from coming to Novac or those companies from setting up retail operations in your terrority, this group only is involved in the transportation of commodities between states and terrorities within the Mojave. No one loses out and everyone gains. The Crimson Caravan and Gun Runners will be fairly compensated for their brahmin herds, and will be able to focus on providing our communities with the goods and services we can't produce. The communities involved in this will gain from the profits of transporting goods, we'll become less dependent on the mood of NCR politicians, and our militias can increase coordination between each other, further building a relationship of trust between our towns.

I see but I still don't know.

It just doesn't seem necessary, we have our own caravans and we're giving one to the Followers and Jacobstown.

By the way did you know House has found a lot of energy weapons in a pre-war military base? I am going to be getting some, as is Jacobstown.

If you want any just ask him.

Representative Steve

I wasn't made aware of the energy shipment but it wouldn't hurt for Goodsprings to receive 10 or so of them to take care of those radscorpions and cazardors north of town. In any case in all of this remember the Hoover Dam. That Dam is owned by a state, The Strip, operated by a state, The Strip, and run by a state, The Strip and yet not one bats and eye. And from our region having that power we are independent of the NCR and Legion. So then ask yourself why this same principal of self sufficiency can't be expended to our goods and services? If we all have the same transportation and good movement service we can all profit, all coordiate, and in the case of emergency quickly allocate resources were they are needed. We don't have to wait for investors 300 miles away to expand operations we can do it ourselves.

You spoke of your towns caravans but you should fear not for them. Under this partnership caravaners like them would become the managers and workers all with access to the goods of the West. Every town, city and slum would have access to NCR and Mojave goods. All states and terrorities apart of this group would profit, and any sane rational being would gain employment that they might not otherwise have. This new caravan network is the first step to our economic self sufficiency, let us not waste this chance.

I don't think I follow, this is a company of sorts?

If its just to make trade easier for the Mojave sure, count me in.

It would be a state partnership in which the shares (and thus profits) are equally disturbed among partners but decisions are made by a C.E.O, yours truly, and a board of directors who help set company policy hired from the best managers in the Mojave from our communities. The supervisory managers and employees are hired by the C.E.O and board with quotas from each state involved to make sure employment is spread as equally as possible. The caravan would not be involved in retail sales in it's inception but rather the transportation of goods between states and communitites. For example of how this work...

If a citizen of your town wanted to get a good from the NCR they would go to their local Crimson Caravan store and buy the item. The item would of been shipped into the Mojave by the Greater Mojave Caravan Group. With help from local militias coordinating the goods wouldn't be taken by raiders and our militias would become accustom to working with one another on matters of regional security.

The only upstart cost involved is that of buying the Gun Runners and Crimson Caravan brahmin. Goodsprings has plenty of grazing land for those herds and of course there will be expenses in upkeeping those animals. But our shipping service would be cheaper than alternatives of course because there wouldn't be a need for mercenaries, because our militia would be committed to keeping the roads safe for trade. In the end all goods in the Mojave would be cheaper and citizens of the Mojave would have higher rates of employment.

I find this odd, so we're just trading like usual but everybody gets a cut?

I apologize for my confusion but I do not see what positives this brings.

Ambassador David Draiman- Robert Edwin House

I don't think there is a need to create our own version of the Crimson Caravan. The Gun Runners supply everyone with weapons. And in this area, we do need to rely on the NCR somewhat.

House relies on them to come to Vegas and flood him in caps, which hasn't failed yet.

Making another company will complicate things.

But hey, that's just my opinion. I'm not a caravan designer.

Ambassador Turner - The Kings

* Since the first meeting at the Lucky 38, NCR squatters have been completely eradicated from Freeside, leaving only locals, travellers, the Followers, the Van Graffs and the Kings. Their dealings with Goodsprings have gone to plan, and the scavenged goods from the South Vegas ruins have profited both groups greatly. Freeside has expanded to include North Vegas as well as beginning to occupy Westside. Unfortunately, they did not count on the large concentration of Scorpion Gang members occupying the Monte Carlo suites, and former Ambassador Miles Presley was attacked on his way there, along with another King who was acting as a guard. Both were killed when a frag grenade was thrown from the doors of the building. In retaliation, the Kings organized a mass raid of the building. No one was left alive inside. In the wake of this, another King, Alex Turner, was made the new Ambassador for Freeside and the Kings once the Goodsprings Convention was announced. Unfortunately, Presley's funeral would fall on the same day, meaning Alex would not be able to depart until quite late in the evening.

He arrived in Goodsprings, along with his two guards, one of them being Pacer, the King's confidant. Already seeing the room packed and in the middle of a discussion, he quietly unzips his leather jacket and draqes it over an empty seat before sitting and stroking a greased comb through his hair.

"Sorry I'm late boys, I had a funeral to attend to. Some of you may have heard, but Miles Presley is dead. I'm Alex Turner, and I'll be representing the Kings from now on. Now, if one of you would be so kind as to educate me on what's been going on in this meetup, I'd be grateful."

Major Wilson- NCR

*Looks at Steve with disapproval*

“Power’s getting to someone head….

Firstly the Gun runners or the Crimson caravan will NOT be selling their Brahmin to you, do not act like they are or will.

I’m not sure where you get your information from but the GR or CC are not corrupt and they both have their own offices/branches and factory or hubs which are most run by native people, not investors 300 miles away.

I also agree with house, another company will simply complicate things. Crimson caravan is already the job along with bring in goods from NCR, some of which are unable in the Mojave. It’s utterly pointless to make another caravan which buys these goods and sells them when the first company could do it.

You will also NEVER be able replace the gun runners. Their dedication to customers and high grade weapons (from pre-War military schematics) will make any weapons manufactures you could set up inferior.

They have been begun to create their own weapons, such as my pistol *Robert places his 5.56 pistol on the table. * Along with many other weapons & ammo types. “Wilson said.

“the gun runners are so good that some people even call them an unofficial branch of the army, even crimson caravans buys guns from them, you would be [censored] mad to attempt to replace them” stone added on

@Novac

“I will have to take this up with congress and the president but I shall have any answer by the next Convention although I should be able to include some spare parts with the blueprints, allowing you to fix the Vertibird easier .

@Kings

Although Miles Presley was a bit of [censored] to me and the NCR a whole I am sorry for his lost although perhaps with his death we can ease tensions between NCR and The Kings.

Representative Steve

@ NCR
Wilson you speak out of ignorance and mistrust which is unfournate. The GMGC would not be ejecting your companies out of the region, but rather redisturbing them to retail operations in the Mojave.

@ Everyone
I think you all have misunderstood this proposal so let me put it in simple terms. The GMGC would become the only mover of goods in the Mojave with the profits going to our communities and all of the employees Mojave citizens. Our miliitas would cooridate to reduce threats for the caravans meaning that goods of the Crimson Stores and Gun Runner operations in the Mojave are providing cheaper goods. The bottom line is do you all want a stronger Mojave economy? More government revenue to defend ourselves? More employment among our citizens? If that interest you then get ready to join up, because the GMGC is a volunatary organization. Goodsprings will be moving forward towards self sufficency. If you wish to join, now would be the time to speak up.

Ambassador Turner - The Kings

*Turner looks at the NCR representative with a smirk, his fingers dancing on the table as he leans forward.

"While I do not have as bitter a disposition towards those soldier boys as Miles had, I am not the ambassador of the NCR sympathizers in the Kings, just as he wasn't the ambassador of the NCR haters in the Kings. I represent ALL of the Kings, from the 16 year olds who joined a week ago, to Pacer out there, who's known the King since before the Kings formed. What I'm getting at here Major, is that while I understand the importance of NCR citizens going into the Strip through Freeside, and yes, their inherent value as customers at the Wrangler and so forth, the Kings do not, and despite any excuses you may make for the NCR, their stay at Freeside hasn't done anything to quell that suspicion. Since the NCR squatters have left Freeside, we've generally seen more peace, we've even been able to expand and annex Westside and North Vegas. There are now more Kings roaming around, trade has been great, and our relations with the rest of Mojave have been going pretty well. Not to mention the total annihilation of the Scorpions gang inside the Monte Carlo after Presley's death. How can I be sure that easing tensions with NCR won't change that?"

Major Wilson

@Goodsprings.

Ooc: I think I did sort of misunderstand the idea at first.

Let me get this straight:

People will pay the GMGC to have their goods moved a crossed the Mojave to be sold in other towns? … So a courier service?
Again I do not think it is need, the caravans already do for free!

In fact the only “benefit” I can see of the GMGC is increase of your profits, the service won’t be faster or safer but hey it’s house choice if he wants a unneeded courier service although personally I think most people will stick with the normal caravans, there is no need for a middle man.

@Kings

Well it’s pretty clear why it’s been peaceful, you kicked them out although I recently spoke to some of ex-squatters who now live in Niption, and several have pretty good jobs according to them it was Pacer and his friends who caused the trouble.
However I have also heard several other story’s such legion spies and drunken NCR guards causing it, simply put everyone has a different reason.

This is why I want an investigation to be launched within freeside to discover the cause of the " freeside trouble" and finally figure out what actually happen, how did tension get this bad, who made the first move and why… once finished the guilty party or person will be put on trial for their crimes, king and NCR alike.

I also request that a neutral party, either Mr House or the followers carry out this investigation to ensure it is not corrupted by either side.

Ambassador Turner - The Kings

"Very well, I'll arrange for the investigation, if they are available. I am friends with Pacer, so I harbour no suspicion of him. I'd hope that the Followers are up for playing detective, because if we have NCR - arranged boys sifting through Freeside, only to find that it was NCR squatters that started all this trouble, we'd have a bit of a riot on our hands. Don't think that killing a King who may have roughed someone up is going to solve much though, our suspicions in Freeside run a bit deeper than that."

Major Wilson-NCR

After the investigation whoever is deemed guilty will be placed on trial, not just simply killed. In this trial, they will get a lawyer and be able to defend themself like any other criminal, for all we know the person could have been framed or blackmailed and should be give a chance to prove their innocent before being punished.

This is course unless the guilty party is already dead… or killed before the trial, should this be the case, we shall work out some sort of Reparation based on how large their role was....

I do not expect this to 100% end tension but hopefully it will calm them down, or at least aim them at the people responsible.

OOC: What should be the starting point? I think it should the beating up of NCR envoy to kings gingy should get the final saying though

Ambassador Ryan - Primm

Yes, that would be fantastic, somewhere around the drive-in would be best.



Good, we'll have some men round up some of the less aggressive prisoners and escort them up to the quarry.

@Representative Steve - I trust that you will allow Prisoners to be escorted through your land. I also feel that state created caravans are not needed, if a new caravan is needed then someone will create one.

@Everyone - Primm wants to standardize the equipment of it's militia, to do this we will need to buy a great number of weapons, but not as much armour, as we a recycling the armour used by the powder Gangers.

Alright, it will be very expensive to cover the cost but we will make sure it is affordable to you.

Since I am in the process of making a prison and you own a prison perhaps we should come up with a set of laws to set the standards of all prisons in the Mojave.\

House has energy weapons to sell and we can give you armor.

Representative Steve

Very well

@ Primm
Goodsprings has no issue with the prisoners coming through our terrority at all, in fact if you ever have to many simply send them to our town. We'll be developing a prison work system in the future.

OOC: Sorry I didn't post this evening. Played all of dead money in the middle of the night. Darn it's scary as [censored] when you're tired.

I'll come up with something tomorrow.

Ambassador Lobotomite - Black Mountain

I could send some Nightkin to escort some of your more problematic prisoners. I guarantee that they'll settle down after a few months of working in the quarry for fear of being watched by cloaked Nightkin.

Perhaps we can work out a similar deal aswell, we can pay handsomely for your troubles.

And it seems to me that Black Mountain may also need a water source, so as not to have to rely on trade.

As you may have heard we're going to make an irrigation system, causing the Colorado River to branch of through our territory, making fresh water easily accessable. We are going to have it split at one point, some of the water going down to Primm and filling up a large empty area which will someday be a lake, the other part will flow back into the Colorado River as to not cause Primm's lake to overflow.

Would Black Mountain like the river to split earlier on and help fill a small lake or perhaps have a river go in through your territory and the flow back into the rest of the river?

It can be very helpful for farming.

Ambassador Turner- The Kings

* Turner thinks over the Major's offer and lights up a cigarette, taking a long drag before leaning forward and speaking.

"Fair enough. I'll inform the King about this investigation, but he's the only one that must know. I'd hope that the Followers are able to do it, but if that doesn't fall through and an outside force intervenes, they can't in anyway be affiliated with NCR, at all. And like I said, no one, at least no King, is gonna give them soldier boys any softer looks because they killed somebody for startin' a fight. You want to launch this? Fine, but its on the bear's head if it falls through."

OOC: Eh, let's just start with the attack on the envoy, maybe a little bit before.