Ambassador Lobotomite - Black Mountain

Both are good ideas, a pipeline would be the best solution. Water is one of the disadvantages of living on top of a mountain.

With all of these prisoners coming to work in Quarry Junction, I feel that an important task that must be done before hand is a wall to prevent any escape attempts. I will send word for my people to get to work on this immediately.

A pipeline could work, we were planning on making another small lake near Nipton so we can run it from there.

And do you own Hidden Valley? Because if you do then you can set it up as a good spot to have caravans and couriers rest, bringing in a lot of income.

And we can help with the construction of baracks for the prisoners sent to you.

Ambassador Lobotomite - Black Mountain

Hidden valley is in our territory. I could send a squad of Nightkin to clear out Scorpion Gulch to give caravans and travelers an alternate route to Novac.

Thank you for the offer, a barracks would be needed for the extra prisoners.

Not a problem, they are partially law breakers from my territory after all.

ooc- This is just my person opinion but the conventions seemed to have more response with more conflict between members who are represented. I'm going to have my ambassador do all that he can in this next post to create conflict that will need to be resolved.

Representative Steve

*Steve continues to sit in his chair stunned at how things are going

You all have got to be joking. So you all would rather have a bunch of NCR walk the wasteland [censored]s taking our jobs and destroying our farms. Well my town won't stand for this [censored]. All NCR caravans will here and by be forced to use the Greater Mojave Caravan Group to move goods through Goodsprings. All violators will face 30 years hard labor. All travelers along the I-15 will face a tax of 100 caps to pass, anyone who violates Goodsprings sovereignty and tries to pass without paying the fine will face 20 years hard labor or execution. Further any caravan group that bypasses the I-15 after this act will be declared enemies of the state and be shot upon when found. Goodsprings will be offering 100 caps per head of any caravan company employees in the wasteland that aren't using the Greater Mojave Caravan Group.

OOC- I guess I well do the same (to a lesser extent).

If that is the case then enjoy bankruptcy. There is still my territory they can go through, I thank you for the extra business revenue. *Draco laughs for a bit then calms down.*

*Draco's smile falls* If any of my caravans are attacked by Goodsprings outside of your territory the State of Cottonwood will view that as a formal declaration of war, which will require an immediate and absolute invasion.

We will accept any caravan that wishes to pass through the State of Cottonwood. We will not be able to protect any property damage caused in our territory unless a fee of fifty caps is paid, which will also pay for four militia members to escort you across.

If any damage to property is done by Goodspring's soldiers we will also view that as a formal declaration of war and will also require an immediate and absolute invasion.

Ooc:
Prison people: logically thinking with the legion, fiends, scorpions and Great khans all gone from the Mojave wasteland and nearby area, I doubt there will be that many prisoners for you prisons. Do you want me suggest NCR prisoner to be sent here so they can do work (instead of rotting in cells)
I posted this in OOC as it wouldn’t fit in with rest of post…

Captain Wilson – NCR

“Forget power going to his head this guy’s gone [censored] mad! [censored] mad!” Wilson said he was somewhat shocked by Steve had said…

“I’m actually speechless at this, MR house if this man does this it will mean war with the NCR…since goodsprings is independent, it will only be with them not the rest of Mojave… hopefully you're reject this outragous idea but if you don't...”

“People back home and here in fact won’t take kindly for this idot murdering or imprison our and your people oh don’t get me started on caravans, as well as being well funded they are armed to the teeth, taking them out won't be easily you

"Also should this happen they will simply just move all trade to 188 route, even local caravans will stay away from goodsprings with this “100 caps or death fee” [censored], you’re gonna make goodsprings a ghost own again…. oh an what matry said ”

“oh and expect the OSI people to be leaving once they hear about this.”

Ambassador Draiman- Mr. House

This is preposterous! Vegas can't survive without the NCR.

I assure you, if goodsprings declares war, they will be on their own.

We will certainly accept NCR travelers and caravans with open arms, do not worry about losing any connections to Vegas.

Ambassador Lobotomite, since you have just lost a ton of trade perhaps you should establish a town towards the northern part of their territory.


Maybe we should make a wall to block off Goodsprings territory so they cannot do damage to the rest of the Mojave.

"Thank you, It's nice to know Novac and House agree with us, i respectfully request steve to moved from his post, he is cleary unfit for this job"

"should it come to war however, I request permission for NCR troops to occupy Goodsprings and remove Steve and others from office.. Once the blackslash has died down, NCR will return Goodsrpings back to house control, unless you wish to do this youself."

edit: yes lobomite, NCR would be willing to purchase limestone from the qaurry should a new trading post is opened, it can be used to bulid new houses in the boneyard "

Representative Steve

@House

What war is there in the Mojave? All I see is a nation proposing tariffs for travel down a highway along with fines and punishments proposed for violations of sovereignty. But Draiman, I never knew you and House wanted the NCR back in the Mojave so soon, with their pretty new power armor and what not. I always knew House was soft, first this, then you'll be saying the NCR can come back to McCarran. A man with a robot army and no backbone. What happen after the Second Battle, House? Your balls fall off?

@Novac
War? Why I never suggested such a thing between our communities. This only applies for NCR caravans not the good people of Novac. My my calm yourself, you act as if I'd want to hurt a fellow Mojave community or something.

@NCR
It's funny how the nation with the highest taxes and most executions out of all of us is offended at the thought it's citizens will have to abide by the rules of a particular terrority. Of course it's not as if I expected more out of you.

just wanted to point out :

ooc: the taxes may be right but highest execution, No No No most people are sent to prison nowdays, only a handful of bad people are ever killed although with that in mind, NCR is the biggest state/nation so is bound to have more that a small state like goodsprings

going to wait until someone else post before making a proper post

I do not believe anybody has the power to remove him from his post, and he has done well as one of Goodsprings first leaders, they're prospering.

And I do not believe the NCR should be able to enter the Mojave under any circumstance short of an evil dictator armed to the teeth with nukes and power armor invading.


Well I am not a part of that caravan group you have made so I assumed that meant my local caravans would also be attacked.

If that is not the case then I apologize for my assumption.

OOC: Well the NCR is by far the bigger nation so they would have hire execution numbers.

And things are heating up.

Ambassador David Draiman- Mr. House

Hold your [censored] tongue, [censored]. You know, we can simply dissolve your state with these continued hostilities.

House HAS to be soft. Without the NCR, who the [censored] comes to Vegas? Hmm? No offense to your state, the NCR is much more valuable to the economy.

*Drinks an ice cold nuka cola and calms down.*

Representative Steve

@ Novac

What the hell would I be looking like starting war with another Mojave community friend? We need each other, we all almost got conquered just a few months back. We both have Bighorns and I'm very much interested in creating a joint meat processing venture with your state. We both have a lot of bighorn but there isn't alot of pre war machinery lying around for that sort of thing, we both might as well profit.

@NCR
You've confirmed what I always knew, that you NCR types are just waiting to come running over the mountains and take the Mojave. Well there will be no war, but Goodsprings and the NCR are finished. After this convention all NCR citizens, caravans, military officials, products or refugees, are banned from Goodsprings' terrority. Any person violating that ban will face life of hard labor.

@House
I see how it is now House, you claim to protect the Mojave one minute, while threating to let the NCR come and invade, guess we know who the truth about this matter now. The NCR will do what it's told because you have them by the nuts. You control their water and their electricity. You have a [censored] robot army of death. What the [censored] would they do? Send an unarmed unequpied trooper across the divide to throw stones? You've already screwed them with that Free Economic Zone of Vegas agreement, so let's continue were that didn't go far enough. The NCR will do what's it's told. I mean come on, have you read the FEZoVA? even House knows I'm telling the truth, that agreement stands as a testament to that.

@Black Mountain

I understand you may think trade will be badly effected by this but fear not, as the NCR ambassador already noted most people weren't going to use the I-15 anyway and given the mental state of many meta-humans in the State of Tibutha it probably wouldn't be safe for them regardless. But this doesn't mean economic staganation, your community can still join the GMCG. Hopefully Jacobstown, Freeside and maybe even one day Novac will see the light as well. I understand that meta-humans still need food as well correct? If so I'm willing to trade you 3 percent of all of Goodsprings bighorn meat in exchange for radio time on Black Mountain radio. Going into the future Goodsprings meat production will only continue to increase, so this is really a steal of a deal for you all.

Representative Marcus - Jacobstown

*Marcus sits up in his chair and an intense expression forms across his face*

@ Goodsprings - I think you're a little bit extreme but I agree with you in a lot of ways. The NCR needs to stay out of the Mojave, they harassed Jacobstown enough before Hoover Dam and now that they're out of the Mojave I sure as hell don't want them back in. As long as you don't attack any local Mojave based caravans I don't really mind if you attack NCR caravans, although Jacobstown will not be helping you in that regard. A lot of mutants and Nightkin in Jacobstown already hate the NCR, and if I let them shoot NCR caravans on sight things could get out of hand.

Wilson – NCR

Where do you think Vegas gets all his money from? NCR citizens. If we stopped them going to Vegas tomorrow, it would starve to death. Sure locals might keep it going for a while but eventually it will die…

You shooting or arresting travellers, especially richer ones who come with caravans will affect Vegas business, thus cause it to suffer and house isn’t gonna like this… it also needs NCR for trade, sure you might have meat in vegas but what about wood? metal? plastic? Guns? i didn't think so...



We may have taxes but we don’t ruthless gun down or jail people for not paying them, or in the choice of caravans wiping them out on the spot… at most they will get a year in prison.

Oh and our country is a least double that of Mojave, of course there are going to be higher execution although with that in mind only those with more than 30 year sentence are executed…

Representative Steve

@Jacobstown

We won't be taking bounties for any local caravans and still very much want them to trade and visit Goodsprings which is completely tax and fee free for them. Marcus we have a lot in common economically, would you be interested in joining the Greater Mojave Caravan Group? Picture your Bighorn meat in Freeside, Goodsprings at first, but years later in far flung places that even the NCR's can't reach. This caravan will be going places and I would love to have a meta human community involved.

@NCR
This is a Goodsprings issue, and has nothing to do with Vegas. If you want to trade with Vegas, trade with them on the I-93 and 95. Goodsprings wants nothing the NCR has to offer or any of your citizens in our lands. To be honest I don't think I have much more to say to you. Your OSI team will be returning home shortly, and there won't be any NCR in Goodsprings. I see nothing more to discuss really.

@Everyone
The mandate for caravans only applies to NCR caravans, any private individual or group that brings back the heads of NCR caravaners will receive 100 caps per. The head of a higher up is 500 caps.

@The Kings
I had previously said not to send criminals from Freeside, but on further thought it would make sense to do so. Instead of killing your criminals and traitors I ask that you send them to Goodsprings, we will put them on a work program. Also I would bid for the Kings to take interest in the NCR ambassador who speaks of invading the Mojave once again. In times like these with the NCR at our gates it does us good to stick together. Join the GMCG, why let NCR citizens profit as so many sit in poverty in Freeside? Why let Brahmin Barons of the west take so much from the east? The GMCG would be only made up of Mojave citizens, by Mojave citizens, with all profits going to Mojave citizens, instead of the NCR. Think of what we could accomplish together.

Rep. Marcus

What exactly would joining this group entail? It sounds promising but I would rather be sure before I make this kind of decision.


*Marcus scowls*

Now that sounds too extreme, I have a lot of Mutants who resent the NCR and would love an opportunity to get back at them violently, now you're giving them incentive. I don't want the NCR to come attacking Jacobstown because some of my Mutants decided to take up your challenge and kill some NCR higher-ups.

Perhaps we should set up processing plants. Since Nelson has become our somewhat depressing factory and prison settlement we could inject it with a market that's less depressing.

We could set a sanitation standard to make sure all of the meat is clean. This may also lead to other states doing the same, helping improve the Mojave further.

What would you use the radio time for?

And the State of Cottonwood would accept the NCR's OSI team if they wish to still remain in the Mojave, we have a hospital-research facility hybrid in the old REPCONN facility where scientists, including the Followers of the Apocalypse, are researching new medicines and technologies.

However your OSI team will be completely restricted from the vertibird located there unless given permission by me directly.

Representative Steve

@Jacobstown
The Greater Mojave Caravan Group is a community run and funded caravan that would be run the benefit of Mojave citizens not the NCR. Each community involved would have a say in the direction of the company and it's future. All of the profits would be equally given to each member group instead of the NCR's pockets. The Brahmin would need to be bought from Novac which still has a few west of Cottonwood. In communities with the caravan, NCR caravans wouldn't be allowed to operate or would have to allow the GMCG to transport the goods for a fee. Also I understand and don't wish to see any meta humans of your community gone, as much as I would like to see NCR caravans out of the Mojave I will respect your wishes and retract the bounty.

@Novac
Mainly a few hours a day to promote Goodsprings, and maybe create a few radio shows or something.

We do still have brahmin west of our settlement but it has been renamed Japa quite recently. We are willing to sell some to anybody who needs it.

I see.
Sounds interesting, we have gotten some radio equipment from the take over of the Legion, perhaps we'll do the same if we can think up enough things to actually say.

And what of the food processing ideas?

Rep. Marcus

Thank you for retracting the bounty. I think Jacobstown would benefit greatly from joining the GMCG, and I would like to officially join the group as of right now. As Jacobstown expands we will have plenty of meat and other agricultural products to sell with the new caravan.

Captain Wilson - NCR

@Jacobtowns
Harassed Jacobtowns? when did this happen i have no knowledge of this? who was it? I can assure you it was no-one from the army.

I will also assure you the NCR will not invade Jacobtowns, angry caravan owners might if attacked but not the NCR.

@kings

I respectfully request you stay out of this trouble, NCR and freeside relations are stable at this time and we don’t need some kings killing NCR, then NCR killing kings in relation and starting more of trouble, especially whilst the investigation is going on.

kings get their guns from gun runners & van graffs anyway



@Goodsprings
I never said anything about invading; just a few squads no wait, freelance mercs would be needed and would leave once finished, hopefully it won’t come to this but if these bounties on ncr caravans do happen… I will personally lead the squad…

Also you may have meat & water but what else? Nothing?

@Novac:

That sounds like a great idea, thank you I shall have the team move there. I’m sure they can greatly help Novac, maybe even get one those old rockets working or improve welfare

Oh an speaking of the Vertibird, the OSI team can fix it and have the plans. Provided goodsprings does not get hands on them or use of the Vertibird …