The gameplay footage doesn't look too promising concerning an improvement of gore mechanics tbh.

Just make the severed body parts that don't take enough damage before exploding off the body ............. Dingle Dangle Dingle.

https://youtu.be/sqZF8XD9Pk4?t=5m11s

I hate over the top gore.

I am not offended by it or sickened by it I just find it silly.

In previous FO games I have installed a mod to reduce the gore to a more reasonable level. IMO only explosives, bladed weapones and Shotguns should cause any form of head explosions or decpaitations

All I can say is thank god for modding. I remember having to go over weapon lists and making sure certain weapons could never cause gore explosions. As another poster said its not a matter of finding it offensive, just silly when a low caliber handgun causes a person to explode.

Yes, that is a bit frustrating.

Most you can do in regular cases is blow one part (head, limb) off. If enemies are "exploding", you're either using high explosives or you specifically picked Bloody Mess - in which case, you can't really complain about how "silly" it is.

I certainly hope whatever Bethesda does with this issue, they do NOT put excessive resources on it. In a world with mini-nukes, Super Mutants and endless energy batteries, I tend to think realistic gore is almost out of place.... I don't particularly like the excessive gore, but it IS part of the game and I consider it's "campiness" to be part of the game's overall art design (not the best part, but unique and identifiable).

Very frustrating. Although at the other end of the spectrum, what's with the whole eyeball thing? Practically every time I ever scored a critical hit with a headshot, I would end up with eyeballs on the floor, and I don't even use Bloody Mess. Always felt a little OTT.

And you think that's normal? Blowing off a head/limb with a handgun?

In an fantastical, over-the-top, dark-humor game with action-movie-ish tendencies and goofy stuff like atomic cars & 50's Z-movie radiation monsters? Mutants, and Weird Science, and Lasers, oh my!

Sure, why not.

If they make hats fly away it has to be ensured that you still can take it from the corpse. Providing that they keep the 'undress' option of course. Maybe it's hard to combine, so I'd rather have glued hats than the risk of losing the ability to take it.

I don't see why it would be hard. I mean the system is in place, the only thing that's needed is a little tweaking.

That really happens? I can't remember a time when a limb popped off that I didn't shoot that limb (like, land the killshot on it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SW7-8C8kL4&t=0m44s

I always find it strange that people talk about realism this and realism that and then ignore how you get shot several times and don't die. There are many other situations where you would die realistically that don't kill you in game. I think that realism has a place in video games but only to tether games to at least a semblance of it.

I find it even stranger that people find a reasonable request (imo) for detail improvement, strange. Yes, realism in games is subjective, but that does not mean it should be treated superficially.

Oh, there are any number of people in the "realism" and "OMG, game so droolingly easy!" camps, who've said they want to change that - so that getting shot in the head is insta-kill, etc. These are the guys who make & use the combat mods that do things like up damage x5, reduce your HP by 75%, etc. ("Oblivion/Skyrim is so easy. You should be legitimately afraid of any random bandit you meet on the road, even if you're lv50. Combat should be brutal/dangerous/'realistic'/blahblahblah")

It's not that it's being treated superficially it's just that there are tons of people who want various degrees of realism put in and many different system for realism. There are the people who want a hunger system, fatigue system, thirst system, and gun jamming/overheating. I just feel that compared to some of the other options, heads exploding to small caliber weapons isn't a big deal.

I feel that this especially is a case where fun is better than realism. HEAD EXPLOSIONS FTW.

Yeah, bloody mess seemed pointless since almost every enemy you shot ended in a bloody mess anyway. I always thought without it you should just see bullet holes or if you used explosives, a missing limb or two, then if you picked bloody mess you'd get all that other crazy stuff.

Still it wouild make sense if it made some sense, yes small calibre guns has some small chance, heaver weapons like miniguns or large caliber automatic weapons much higher chance.

Mines and other explosive and its common. Mini nukes and similar large explosions like exploding cars give bloody mess on direct hit even if you have the perk or not.

I feel like explosives and incendiary weapons could introduce a new type of damage "layer." Burn marks. That would be pretty cool.

I would like it if the energy weapons didn't disintegrate all of the enemy all the time. Maybe just their head would melt or their arm would melt off leaving a charred stump of a body or something. Rather than them completely burning into ash all the time.

I've let go of the cheesyness that were body parts being "blocks" as they exploded for last generation, but there's no reason for the same exact style to come back for FO4. It's built on powerful enough hardware now that it should either be A ) more flat and liquidy red where it took place, or B ) if going to have blocky body parts that don't make sense, then you must show more limbs, hands etc. in that scattered pile.

I don't know if Bethesda is intentionally trying to make it 'Fallout cartoony' or it's just a bad design. Once they showed it in the demo, I was let down.

What I want to see is gore that isn't a kill. I want to be able to blow someone's jaw off and see them squirm around and die later, or if I catch someone on fire I want them to not just continue on like nothing's happening.

We seem to have shifted from the original "Gore should be more realistic from a physics standpoint - no small guns blowing off arms" to "I want to see realistic organs & blood & bone shards! Woohoo, splatterhouse!"

(IMHO, I don't particularly care one way or the other about the first, but I'd rather that they not drive me out of the game by the second. FO3's level of blood&guts was fine - no need to make a medically-accurate splatter game that makes people want to run away & puke. The game's supposed to be fun, not disgusting.)