I'd like to see that my weapons really inflict damage to the enemies.
I think the implementation of Dismemberment in order to look realistic is a difficult task.
But what I'd like to see which is also easier to make is realistic damage meaning that when I hit someone with my sword,I'd like to see a bleeding scar on him/her.Or perhaps if I hit them with a club,red abrasions will cover their skins.
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I share the view that it's a bit strange to play a game that involves brutally killing characters with medieval weapons, yet object to the idea of seeing the effects of those weapons on their bodies. What do you imagine is happening to the people you're mutilating? I just don't understand how it's possible to ignore what you're actually doing in the game. So, as condescending as the Hello Kitty option may have seemed, I think it's actually an accurate commentary on the idea of combat stripped of blood and gore -- it only makes sense in the context of something that's overly cutesy and cartoonish, and made for children.

Cuts from swords and spears
Bruises from Blunt weapons
Would look way more realistic.

More than Oblivion, less than Fallout even sans Bloody Mess.

That's different. You can't seriously compare Super Mario Bros and The Legend of Zelda to The Elder Scrolls. It's completely different experiences. For example, in Super Mario 64, If you fall down into a pit of lava, Mario will fly up with his hands on his butt, screaming iiaaaaaaaauuuu. In Oblivion, you will simply burn and die unless you get up very very fast. Nintendos games are child friendly, Bethesdas isn't. But to answer you question, yes i do think that part of Nintendos games is ridicilous but i understand why they have to do it that way. Just like i understand why you can't show too much gore iand violence in a Disney movie. But Bethesda dosn't have that problem, their key audience is advlts.

Enough to know I hit something. FO3 was comical but a touch overboard.

With Oblivion Beth was aiming for a Teen rating correct? But that got bumped up to mature based on certain mods.

I think Oblivions gore level is fine. The goriest places were necromancer lairs and the plains of oblivion. I think they could make combat a little bloodier, but it doesn't really add much for me. I mean, after a 'death hit' maybe an arm or something flying off wouldn't be unreasonable.

Lol. feels weird saying that

More like broken and dangling arms, dents in their armor, clutching broken ribs, spine breakers that cripple them in half and leave their eyes lolled back in their skulls.

Whatever the gore level is in Skyrim, I hope they take a page out of Oblivion's book and keep the gore slider. I always preferred to turn gore off entirely.

I'd prefer they separate gore options from other mature themes. I don't like gore. I don't mind mature themes, nor do I think something as comparatively innocent as nudity (which won't happen in TES anyway) should be lumped together with brutal gore.

Mass Effect thus far is impressing me this way. It's mature but classy about it.

God your post is way too ... vague. I could of made a much better gore thread then any of the one's i have seen but so not to cloud the forum . . .

What you probably really thought, or you should have.

When in combat the effects it has on the enemy should be realistic and believable to the player. It should not be determined by the media or whatever may have influenced the prudishness displayed in oblivion and back. It should not be as ridiculous as fallout is. A knife will not make someone's head explode . . . In more detail >

Gore should be determined at the start by three settings. A warning much like the shooters do today should provide you with the switch the very first time the game is started much like what modern warfare 2 did. So the parents who buy an M rated game for there kids don't complain . . .

Furthermore the weight of a weapon should effect gore a dagger will not cut an arm off but will cause massive bleeding on unarmored targets and if the weight and defense of the item being struck is not equal to the weight and damage of the attack in question it should cause a unique effect. As stated earlier a mace to someone's unarmored head would do and should do CRITICAL damage and blood should be gushing from there noes and the gash it would cause. If they have a heavy helmet with high defense and it's struck we should see sparks fly off and actually see the player react to being hit by it. It would after all cause an concussion. If your hit by an arrow depending on the armor your wearing it would pierce the armor. Long bows were the death of the Knight so if your hit by a Long bow in heavy armor it should do critical damage when it pierces your armor, if enough hit I don't care if your the dragonborn your not living through multiple trauma's to your body without being in a wheel chair or something.

Since there is no real magic you can imagine what it would do. A fireball would heat up heavy metal armors and catch light armors on fire causing extra damage. If you heal an undead it would do damage to them causing them to revert back into a corpse, the normal kind. If you blind someone there eyes should appear as a blind man's one. I could go on but you get the picture with that.

Everyone loved the parallelization from fallout and being as it was in morrowind as a spell you can put it in this one for that realistic feel believable feel it offers. If you leg takes enough damage it could cause it to become paralyzed if it hits zero you could lose it and would have to visit the mage local healer to re attach it. That last bit is optional I just thought that would be awesome. Carrying your own hand after you narrowly defeated an opponent or maybe you got your head chopped off? in that case you would just die . . .

Through the levels and fights say your stabbed when it heals that should cause a scar on the player. In other words depending on how massive the damage is you take it should give you a unique scar caused by the weapon that hit you. If a player was very poor at combat and was struck several times it would show. I think there should be a limit placed on the amount of scars though as to make it realistic.

PLEASE guys be mature about this next one. It is the reason why the more mature people have had to miss out until the mod is made for it. Yes that is right Better bodies. As in the nudity section that removes the painted on underwear that Bethesda is afraid to change. Depending on the Gore level in the game, if you drop all your equipment you should logically be naked right? So please make this for those of us who are not immature and actually are old enough to buy the game. . . For those who are young and cannot handle seeing it (even though you see it anyway on all those porm sites you look at . . .) add in the gore option to make it an quest item so it cannot be removed but is still an actual item and not poorly made underwear that's painted on and has bothered us for nearly 10 years now. . . Really Bethesda you have played the safe side way to long with this one and you need to innovate it. I think I speak for all the people actually eligible for this game and mature when I say this. GROW A BACKBONE! I love you and I hate to say that. :sadvaultboy:

What about Killzone games. Call of Duty games. Uncharted games. Gears of War (with toned down gore/blood) games. Mass Effect games. Bayonetta. Even Borderlands (which is very, very quick gore). Are those kiddish? Really?

I actually don't mind some blood and little bit of gore, people.

It's just some games go a little bit too far (like the extreme slow-mo head-destroying perk in Fallout) for my own personal taste.

It's just lots of people commenting on this topic are asking for extreme in-depth gore that is a little extreme (and I am not even sure how far Skyrim will even implement it) for me.

I just want an option to tone that kind of thing down. And do not use the "don't play the game or don't use melee weapons" excuse. That sounds like an argument people would tell to the anti-fast travel people as well.
(Also, unfortunately, I don't have a PC to mod anything either.)

I AM an advlt (23 year-old female), but doesn't that doesn't mean I will automatically like tons and tons of gore and blood. At the same time, I don't want the people who DO want gore to be disappointed, so that is why I am asking for an OPTION. Mature games like Gears of War and Call of Duty did that. (And, Morrowind and Oblivion were not that gory in my opinion, either.)

No, that should be separate. Gore offends me far more than nudity would. Options are a good thing. Even though I hate gore with a passion I don't oppose the option of it.

Oh its THIS thread again! OK I thought it was just one of the old ones still alive.

If you read the rest of it you would see that that would be the third option the default being the crappie kid version where watermelon juice gets on your blade and dissappears in seconds. . . Since I know you won't do that ...

For those who are young and cannot handle seeing it (even though you see it anyway on all those porm sites you look at . . .) add in the gore option to make it an quest item so it cannot be removed but is still an actual item and not poorly made underwear that's painted on and has bothered us for nearly 10 years now. . . Really Bethesda you have played the safe side way to long with this one and you need to innovate it. I think I speak for all the people actually eligible for this game and mature when I say this. GROW A BACKBONE! I love you and I hate to say that. :sadvaultboy:

It has nothing to do with "being a kid." I find gore to be horrifically graphic. It's something I personally do not want to see in a game. If I ever play Fallout 3, I will use mods to heavily reduce the gore.

There are many dozens of ways they could innovate other than adding gore (or even nudity) to the game. I shouldn't need to "grow a backbone" to enjoy a video game.

I could understand the condescending attitude if I opposed any option for gore at all, but I didn't. I just personally want to be able to turn it off.

Yes, thank you! :foodndrink:

I didn't just mention kids. It is also immaturity. That doesn't have to be a bad thing you know. Some people are just sheltered from that. for example Http://www.yourmomhatesthis.com UNFORUTANTELY I said it is an option so you can't really lose seeing as the default version as I said 3 times now would be the bottom half i had said before.

add in the gore option to make it an quest item so it cannot be removed but is still an actual item and not poorly made underwear that's painted on and has bothered us for nearly 10 years now

the back bone bit that even said it was the Bethesda. Why should we suffer because maybe what 10% of you are prude or let your parents buy it. No give us the option for a more realistic and believable gore/nudity/ graphics. It makes everyone happy. it worked for the hardcoe mode that was highly successful and yes I suggested that too and was a big supporter.

No and i don't believe i have ever said anything like that. Uncharted, Gears of War, Call of Duty and Mass Effect IS NOT the same as Nintendos games. I said Super Mario and The Legend of Zelda was child games (though the right word is probably family games). Will you please stop putting words into my mouth? Again there is a difference. In this case the difference is mild gore/customizable gore and no gore at all. I said that i would prefer Fallout 3 gore but that i could live with Oblivion level gore but anything less than that would be ridicilous. As far as i am concerned, Mass Effect and Uncharted is about the same as Oblivion and therefor acceptable even if i would also prefer slightly more gore in those games. Gears of War is probably even above though i don't remember it all that well. I have never tried the game without gore but i imagine it would look very... strange. Still, that's you choise to make, not mine. I agree, you should be able to tone it somewhat down but there is also limits for how much Beth can protect people from such stuff. Sometimes, it would simply make absolute no sense if it wasn't there. And just to clarify, i don't want "tons and tons of gore and blood". I just want it to be realistic.

Was it the movie Braveheart where you saw a dude's head get mauled by a flail/morning star? I mean really, a spiked ball hitting your skull is gonna shred half your face off, if not your entire head.

Tec brings up the point that well over 90% of people who watch action movies are decentitized to gore anyway. Just look at all the 8 year olds watching NCIS and all those crime scenes that make me wanna throw up when I see it. I feel like separating games from movie's is misleading.

I'm happy with Oblivion level. Fallout 3 was over the top to the point of being cheesy. Not interested in dismemberment, it adds nothing to the gameplay for me.

Agree^....Im all for gore but I don't want it to be way over the top.....don't want my character walking around for the entire game covered in a ridiculous (and fake looking) amount of blood as was the case in DAO

See, the top part makes me a little bit mad. So, not wanting to see tons of gore is considered immature? (Like I said, I've played games that had blood/gore--Mass Effect 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, even Resident Evil, etc.) I love how gore is awesome and realistic, but nudity is considered evil and naughty. *sigh*

I'm sorry if I sound rude.

I'm just a little upset because in the past throughout my life, my girl gamer friends and I have been told by gamers (usually male) that gore is realistically awesome and hardcoe and l33t and if us females don't like it, then we females (or even any males who also don't like gore) shouldn't play games in the first place, etc. *gets a headache thinking about it*

But, I appreciate that you would allow it to be an option. =)




Gears of War still had a bit of blood/gore spraying (but not huge pools of it, lol!) and dead, decaying bodies are still shown. =)
I'm not asking for NO blood or gore, though. If it's at Mass Effect 2/Uncharted/Call of Duty-level, I am fine.
Again, sorry if I sound too rude. =(

EDIT: I'm just going to walk away from this topic. It's a bit touchy and personal for me, lol.
I will go play Oblivion to keep my mind occupied instead. =D

Close to the fallout level is great for me, but without the cheesiness that fallout loves.