Grab Freeze / Crash : IV

» Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:44 am

To put it simply, whenever I use the z key to move an object, my next immediate action results in a freeze.
Example:
Z grab and move a boot on the floor - Goblin charges - Cast fire ball (or shoot an arrow, punch, whatever, doesn't matter) and game freezes for an indeterminate(maybe forever?) amount of time.
Keep in mind, this happens if there is decent lag or not, sometimes it won't happen, but most times it will, and it's gotten to the point where I save every time before I move something.
I've always just figured it was something else but I just did an experiment which concluded my suspicions (basically just grabbed some crap and tried punching it off the table.)

I have a sizable collection of modifications running, but the only one I could see even vaguely affecting this would be deadly reflex v5, I wouldn't see why any of the other ones I have running would affect it. (I have no mods that affect animations)
I have no idea if this is a problem in vanilla or not as well, as I can't recall, but if any one would like me to list my mods or any other information to figure this out, I'd be happy to oblige tomorrow if requested, as I'm getting to sleep as soon as I'm done posting this.

Thank you in advance.

» Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:30 pm

Please post your load order when you get back.

And who knows, maybe you'll figure things out while in bed? It happens. :thumbsup:

» Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:16 pm

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
underdark.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
SoVvM.esm
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Windfall.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
TRoN.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
1em_Vilja_RenHair14.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp
FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp
Knights.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
SP1stPLegs.esp
Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp
PersuasionOverhaul.esp
Improved Hotkeys.esp
kuerteeHorseCommands.esp
BoneGrind.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
RhiannaII.esp
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp
Zira's Battle Horse Shop.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Damarask.esp
Windfall.esp
HoarfrostCastle.esp
GlenvarCastle.esp
bartholm.esp
Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
IlluminationWithin.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Real Lava 1.3.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
NBB.esp
undercover.esp
RealSleepExtended.esp
RealisticFatigue.esp
RealisticLeveling.esp
Streamline 3.0.esp
QTdof.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp
UnderdarkSaga.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
TT-EquipableBeardsLEVELEDLIST.esp
CharGenAmulet.esp
PCSoundCernd.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
deadly icon fix new.esp
Benjamin the Donkey - pimped up version.esp

» Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:20 pm

Alright, I've just confirmed it, it's Deadly Reflex v5 which is causing the crashes, like I thought.
So, to whatever mod moved this to the modification section, good call lol. (At least I think they did.. Or maybe I was just too tired to realize I didn't put it in the software hardware problems forum.)

I thought maybe it was because the default kick key for deadly reflex is Z, but I switched my grab key to N and received the same results when moving an object with it.

I honestly have no idea what's causing this as there doesn't seem to be anything on the tesnexus forums about this issue, nor on these.

Any help would be really appreciated.

» Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:53 am

There should be an update for DR5 that fixes some crashes, so grab that if you don't have it.

» Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:09 pm

You need to use the Hotfix for Deadly Reflex 5. This file can be found on the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8273#fileanchor page.

» Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:02 am

It works.
Really wish I looked into that in the first place, I look everywhere but at patches.
Regardless, thanks to both you, hopefully this won't be an issue soon for others, at least when v6 comes out of beta.