Graendal completely outclassed by SCAR/Scarab?

Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:52 am

I usually don't make these kind of threads but I'm curious what other people think about this gun. It seems like at any range it's easier to use the fully automatic Scar over the burst fire only Graendal. Maybe if they added some actual weapon recoil but there isn't any so I feel like this is a worthless unlock right now.

Am I wrong in thinking this or what?
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Jenna Fields
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:41 am

Seems a bit lackluster i thought, managed to get a few kills with it, i think with the 3x scope on it, it might be okay.3
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Joe Alvarado
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:47 pm

Its a battle rifle, use the single-shot attachment and it does alot of dmg and mid/long range. Kinda like the FAL from Mw2
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:28 am

It needs a little buff yes.
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James Potter
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:22 am

Its a battle rifle, use the single-shot attachment and it does alot of dmg and mid/long range. Kinda like the FAL from Mw2
But that's the thing, the damage drop off for the SCAR is so little that it still beats the Graendal at medium to long range. Add to that very little to no recoil and there isn't a good reason to use the Graendal. I haven't had the chance to unlock the Scarab yet but I think it will outclass the Graendal as well.

Also, why the hell is the submit button on the left side. Annoying.
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Ashley Hill
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:49 am

Its a battle rifle, use the single-shot attachment and it does alot of dmg and mid/long range. Kinda like the FAL from Mw2

Ya if you put it on single shot you raqe people in like 2 bullets
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:27 pm

Its a battle rifle, use the single-shot attachment and it does alot of dmg and mid/long range. Kinda like the FAL from Mw2

Ya if you put it on single shot you raqe people in like 2 bullets
I'll try that, if I can manage to actually get into a game today. Does the rapid fire suit perk help with single shot mode?
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Nathan Hunter
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:15 am

i bought it yesterday with the feline (SMG) when i reached lvl 13. I have to say it's bad, worse than the feline.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:12 am

I worked my way up to the requisite level so as i could unlock the Graendal so i could use something different, after only two matches i decided i hated it and went back to the SCAR, i find it much more reliable. I just hope that the Scarab when i get there is not as much of a disappointment.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:36 am

Well it's fully automatic so it's already got an edge on the Graendal at close range, which is where most of the fighting takes place.

Comparing the scar and scarab in single player they're pretty much identical in power, only the scar gets the scope mod while the scarab gets the silencer.

So yeah, the Graendals strong point is long distance, but how many big maps are there that will let you take advantage of that fact? Pier 17? Light house? The one with the crashed ship in it..? And even still, the scar can still kill faster at any range. Doesn't seem worth it to me, I think they should increase it's damage by a fair margin.

Then again, if they increase the damage any more it might as well be a sniper rifle and either making it redundant or gimped compared to the real sniper rifles.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:46 pm

use it in pro it 1 bursts everyone quit whinin its amazing
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:41 pm

Full Auto + No recoil = OverKill
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:20 pm

use it in pro it 1 bursts everyone quit whinin its amazing
Not whining just talking about the flaws in the games weapon balance. If you don't want to discuss the pros and cons of the weapons then maybe this thread isn't for you.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:01 am

Burst fire weapons almost always svck. They're only reliable when the enemy can't see you because in a head to head with an auto weapon you'll usually lose. Tbh I don't know why anyone bothers unlocking it.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:44 am

I didn't know it was a burst fire weapon when I unlocked it.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:46 pm

Burst fire weapons almost always svck. They're only reliable when the enemy can't see you because in a head to head with an auto weapon you'll usually lose. Tbh I don't know why anyone bothers unlocking it.

That's true, and it's stupid. There's a reason soldiers are trained to shoot in bursts and single shots. It's more effective.

I think they should increase the recoil on the full auto guns or maybe just make the loss of accuracy greater/faster. Cause right now, spray-and-pray beats lining up shots.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:27 am

lol, have you guys been on a ranked server with the FULL AUTO Grendal hack? I quit playing after 2 min. They upped the rate of fire so you can spam the 3 round burst + no recoil.
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