Dear Bethesda,
Haha! Your finally making Skyrim, I am beyond excited.. More like.. Can't describe it at all.. I have played through the whole Elder Scrolls Series, and they were wonderful. I am so PSYCHED right now.. can't even wait till 11.11.11. (Lucky day for a lucky game!) But.. before that.. I just remembered one thing that affects gamers a lot! Its the graphic difference between the nice PC and the Xbox 360 - PS3.
I am focused on the Xbox360 right now.
I have Oblivion on the PC and the XBOX. I noticed.. the Xbox 360 graphics are mediocre (but really good, just not as good compared to a high-res computer). But, my PC played it better with an intergrated graphics card... NVIDIA
GEFORCE 6150SE.. Yeah, its a horrible graphics card. But the graphics were still better even on medium settings.. weird..
I am wondering how will Skyrims super ultra crazy graphics be on the Xbox 360..
This is for a console gamers out there who hate the bad graphics compared to the PC.
Maybe there will be a add-on package from Microsoft just to make the XBOX360 better.. or maybe not.. .Never know.
But right now the question is... how does Bethesda feel about the difference between the Console and the PC.
Please post the difference in graphics in your comments or feel free to add your own thoughts..

Xbox 360: ???

PC: ???


Thanks!

Consoles cant be modded.

End of discussion

really another one of these........



also, in before the lock

Did I miss something or is this not related to the OP?

Actually, consoles can.

But that's a violation of the user agreement and/or illegal.

Graphics will be great on all three platforms.

When you play game's on a computer you are 2-1 feet away. When you use a console your on average 5-6 feet away so the graphics don't need to be as precise.

you would not notice unless you had the two screens put right next to each other. imo, as long as you can tell what you are looking at then its fine.

speak for yourself. i've easily noticed the diff in each beth game so far.

Whats the deal. You think that bethesda makes console graphics worse by a distinct reason than the tech limitation of the console themselves or are you sugesting them to make worst graphics for PC version just to make you feel less jealous?

How many threads....

Here is a quote from Todd Howard from his podcast:
The entire podcast can be found here: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/02/03/toddhowardse.aspx

The gameplay video that has been released is all xbox footage as far as I know - so the game is going to look pretty good for you, and I imagine it will be optimised for consoles. The problem is that the current generation of consoles are now using much older hardware than my PC (and not just mine), and I'd be very disappointed if the game did not have higher settings that I could utilise on my newer (and much more expensive - my gpu cost me the equivalent of $300 and I would like to get my money's worth!) hardware. But you are restricted to what the xbox can do, and that is not the fault of the developer.

the reason PC looks better is because modern PCs have far far better hardware than the current console generation and higher res textures better AA and can handle more effects on screen at once, the hard ware is the limitation for consoles its just old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sw_1P2dvWU

If I recall correctly the game trailer was created using the xbox360. Thus, if you want a good indication of what the 360's graphics are going to look like view the trailer again with that in mind. In my opinion it look pretty fantastic.

Not to mention that video compression is 'lossy', so it will look even better than the video. :thumbsup:

A major point is that oblivion was terribly optimised, and there's actually a lot more room for graphics than oblivion would have you believe. Of course, PC hardware is still half a decade ahead, but what can you do.

Does it really matter?.....

Tell me, what is the actual point to a Xbox v PC topic. Let me tell you, none. As I've said before they will both be awesome and not one is better than the other because that all comes down to personal preference and opinion. We're all on the same side here.

The problem is that new hardware is released for computers on a regular basis, and computers can be upgraded with said hardware, whereas with consoles, you can't really do this, the only way you're really going to get better hardware is get a new console, and so far, no successors to the PS3 and Xbox 360 have been released. Thus, no matter how impressive the graphics of games on your console look when it's first released, the best possible graphics you can get on PC will inevitably advance beyond what you can do with the current generation of consoles, becausd new hardware has allowed PC games to do things that aren't possible with consoles. This isn't to say that new console games can't have better graphics than older ones on the same console, because not every console game necessarily pushes the capabilities of the hardware to their limit, and you can still have better engines. I mean, Skyrim's graphics are certainly better than Oblivion's were, if you compare them only to what the game looks like out of the box, not just the Xbox 360 version, but I'd say that the PC version of Oblivion doesn't look as good as Skyrim either, assuming that you set all settings as high as they could go and don't use any graphics mods. For one thing, even on the highest possible settings, objects in Oblivion don't cast shadows, people and monsters do, but static objects like buildings, chairs, tables and such or items dropped on the ground don't, I think that one is going to make a pretty big difference. Still, what you can do by upgrading the software must still be limited by the capabilities of the hardware you're running it on, and when you have hardware that doesn't improve except with each new "generation", which usually only happens every few years (I'm refering to consoles here.) and hardware that can be upgraded quite regularly if you can afford to do so (PCs.) the former is eventually going to fall behind the latter. Thereforem developers are faced with two choices if they want to release games for both consoles and PCs, either have the console versions not look as good as the PC version potentially can, assuming one is running the game on a computer capable of running the game on the highest possible settings while maintaining a playable framerate, or limit what the PC version can do to ensure that the experience remains the same across different platforms. The latter may cause PC fans to criticize the game, and is one of the reasons why some PC players might hope for the game to be PC exclusive. In the case of Skyrim, according to the podcast, it sounds to me like the game will be able to look better on PCs than on consoles, but not by an extremely significant amount. How much better it can look, though, we won't know until we see screenshots or gameplay videos of the PC version.

All that said, though, I'm certainly not saying PC gaming is BETTER than console gaming. Myself, I enjoy games on both PCs and consoles, it really depends on the game I want to play, getting into a debate of the two is entirely unnecessary and just asking for a flame war. I'm simply saying that if you really want Direct X 11 or whatever other latest and greatest advances in video game graphics you can think of, investing in a high-end PC is the way to go.

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