Grass, I hate you. : V

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:05 pm

Why does grass still only render 20 feet in front of you, it's exactly like oblivion you would think that they would have atleast improved it a minor amount over the years. Guess not :/

I can only hope that the pc version will allow farther rendering distances.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:15 pm

of course it would,the video is shown on a xbox 360, not xbox 720

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:51 am

Why does grass still only render 20 feet in front of you, it's exactly like oblivion you would think that they would have atleast improved it a minor amount over the years. Guess not :/

I can only hope that the pc version will allow farther rendering distances.

pc will undoubtedly be able to render better draw distances. consoles are limited because of lack of resources and outdated hardware.

not trying to start a war here people, just stating facts.

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:08 am

pc will undoubtedly be able to render better draw distances. consoles are limited because of lack of resources and outdated hardware.

not trying to start a war here people, just stating facts.

Yea but i'm not sure about pc being able to render better draw distances because they barely could in oblivion.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:16 pm

of course it would,the video is shown on a xbox 360, not xbox 720

It's not entirely console limited, but it course has partly to do with that.

Red Dead Redemption (on the 360) has about 10 times the grass distance than Skyrim. Then again, the grass in RDR is low-poly, but it still looks good.

So... I think Rockstar handles grass, literally, 10 times better.

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:14 am

Yea but i'm not sure about pc being able to render better draw distances because they barely could in oblivion.

LOL

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:54 am

It's not entirely console limited, but it course has partly to do with that.

Red Dead Redemption (on the 360) has about 10 times the grass distance than Skyrim. Then again, the grass in RDR is low-poly, but it still looks good.

So... I think Rockstar handles grass, literally, 10 times better.

Amen to this, you can look down from a freaking mountain in RDR and see grass in the valley below you.

EDIT: Vadager, I know a pc is capable of it, i've been a pc gamer all my life... I'm saying I doubt Bethesda's "draw distance" setting will go any farther than the xbox360 because it sure as hell didn't in oblivion. Stop being a smart ass.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:36 pm

I thought this thread would be about the fact that grass was there at all, or was too tall. I can't begin to count how many things I lost in the grass. Kill a bandit with a Daedric Bow in the grass, well good luck ever finding that bow. It was just really bad sometimes.

I do hope they fixed this someway.

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:34 am

Amen to this, you can look down from a freaking mountain in RDR and see grass in the valley below you.

EDIT: Vadager, I know a pc is capable of it, i've been a pc gamer all my life... I'm saying I doubt Bethesda's "draw distance" setting will go any farther than the xbox360 because it sure as hell didn't in oblivion. Stop being a smart ass.

Good thing there's more to configuring games than the in game options.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:46 pm

nope, RDR indeed renders grass distance 10x further but dont forget

the grass mode in RDR is worse than oblivion, dont believe me go play RDR,look closer to the class and compare to oblivion

and RDR is on 3rd person perspective, the bumpmap or i dunno what it call,resolution? of the grass is way lesser than in oblivion,since your character is always in the 3rd person thus you cant zoom in to view the grass clearly,with this they able to pull it off 10x of the distance

while in oblivion your character is in 1st person perspective, grass model need to be more clear thus the distance of the grass on the console is greatly limited

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:52 am

Good thing there's more to configuring games than the in game options.

:thumbsup:

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:30 am

Amen to this, you can look down from a freaking mountain in RDR and see grass in the valley below you.

EDIT: Vadager, I know a pc is capable of it, i've been a pc gamer all my life... I'm saying I doubt Bethesda's "draw distance" setting will go any farther than the xbox360 because it sure as hell didn't in oblivion. Stop being a smart ass.

if only you can see my new PC

and you should check out some mods for OB, 10k better-ness on all visuals (epic dl size though XD)

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:07 am

It's not entirely console limited, but it course has partly to do with that.

Red Dead Redemption (on the 360) has about 10 times the grass distance than Skyrim. Then again, the grass in RDR is low-poly, but it still looks good.

So... I think Rockstar handles grass, literally, 10 times better.

Or it might has to do with the fact that RDR plays in a desert with more scarce grass...

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:57 am

Alpha and xbox. That's the key words.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:34 pm

Or it might has to do with the fact that RDR plays in a desert with more scarce grass...

Not sure if serious.... Have you played RDR? There isn't an inch of ground that isn't covered in grass lol.

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:20 am

OB grass was badly optimized hopefully they have learnt from their mistakes and make it so that render distance is slightly better on console, and things dont just pop in 10 feet away.

Of course on PC i need not worry for modders shall fix my every complaint, bless the modders!

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:26 pm

Yea but i'm not sure about pc being able to render better draw distances because they barely could in oblivion.

..what? You've apparently never played Oblivion on the PC because you could push back the grass draw distance by quite a lot, and there were mods to make it infinite. So yeah.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:04 pm

Maybe grass isn't Bethesda's forte?
Besides, you PC players get the good stuff. You can edit the .ini files. :sadvaultboy:

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:08 pm

..what? You've apparently never played Oblivion on the PC because you could push back the grass draw distance by quite a lot, and there were mods to make it infinite. So yeah.

By quite alot I think you mean about 25 feet at the most. We shouldn't need a mod for freaking grass when a pc is easily capable of twice what they are giving us.

» Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:27 am

By quite alot I think you mean about 25 feet at the most. We shouldn't need a mod for freaking grass when a pc is easily capable of twice what they are giving us.

I don't disagree with the sentiment, this and rain going through objects are pretty poor issues IF they still persist in Skyrim regardless of what platform you play on.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:44 pm

Oh and just so yall don't think i'm one of those people who [censored] about everything I still think skyrim looks amazing and i'll be there for the midnight release. It's just these small problems that kinda ruin the immersion for me :/

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:13 pm

By quite alot I think you mean about 25 feet at the most. We shouldn't need a mod for freaking grass when a pc is easily capable of twice what they are giving us.

..no, I don't mean by 25 feet at the most. The default max was about 100 feet. I can take a SS of it for you right now if you'd like?

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:18 pm

..no, I don't mean by 25 feet at the most. The default max was about 100 feet. I can take a SS of it for you right now if you'd like?

I'd love to see it man because I have my game completely maxed out and stuff still appears at my feet out of nowhere. Did you edit files?

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:15 pm

Why does grass still only render 20 feet in front of you, it's exactly like oblivion you would think that they would have atleast improved it a minor amount over the years. Guess not :/

Improved over the years?
You mean like how the Xbox has improved over the years?
Oh wait, it hasn't, it's the exact same hardware as in 2005.
There is your answer.

» Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:30 pm

Thank God I'm playing on PC. I'll show that grass how to behave :toughninja: