Great Horseman

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:00 am

Hello all.

I was wondering, for a fan fic I'm going to create, what race's have exceptional skill at horsemanship? if any that is? So far, the only ones that make much sense would be the Bretons, or mabey the RedGuards, but I have no idea and haven't found anything relating to horsemanship yet.

Thanks.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:34 pm

I'm guessing that Imperials are pretty good, as they're pretty adaptable for pretty much any combat role. Not to mention that the Imperial Legion has horseman.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:13 pm

I would like to put the Nords as good riders.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:09 pm

Bosmer have an affinity with animals so they could be excellent horseman. Its not orcs or Dunmer. They have both shown a fondness for horseflesh in the past.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:38 pm

Bretons for heavy cavalry if we are taking the French Model.

Dres Dunmer since they live in the plains. And please nobody tell me "but durr dark elves eat horses!" In my culture we have very good horses but we also eat horse meat.

Another one is perhaps Redguards.

Imperials? Altmer? Maybe?

Bosmer ride horses? Where in the trees?

Nords ride horses? In the mountains? Horses need open terrain.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:13 am

The Nords land "Skyrim" will probably have a good amount of open terrain as there is probably large valleys and probably more to ride on.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:58 pm

Horses don't graze on snow however unless they are meat eating horses?

Nords will more likley ride bears then horses.

Yea, bear cavalry, look it up.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:00 am

I would like to put the Nords as good riders.


No, Nords don't like horses. Other than on a plate that is. I think there's even a mention of this in game (Oblivion, see Bruma stables). Nords defenetly don't make good riders in TES.

I'd say Imperials. What is odd in Oblivion (the game) when you think about it is the fact that best horses are bred by a Dunmer of all people, near the Morrowind border. Now I know that Vvardenfell didn't have horses because of the isolationism and all (supposedly, it was a gameplay/technical thing anyhow) and that it doesn't mean Morrowind can't have them, but I think it's generally accepted that Dunmer don't really use horses most of the time. So this strikes me as odd :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:31 pm

Dres Dunmer since they live in the plains. And please nobody tell me "but durr dark elves eat horses!" In my culture we have very good horses but we also eat horse meat.


Why are there no horses in Morrowind?
For two reasons. First, Dark Elves like them as a foodstuff. Second, native grasses of Morrowind give horses a bad, and often terminal, case of tummy ache.

Source: Ken Rolston in one of his pre-Morrowind online interviews.


Mind you that was referring to Vvardenfell I think. Maybe a few horses survive uneaten on the mainland of morrowind.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:11 am

Actualy, Immortal, Skyrim isn't at all what most people believe it to be. I've grown acustome to posting this bit from the PGE every time someone says something about Skyrim just being ice and snow.

The land of Skyrim is the most rugged on the continent, containing four of the five highest peaks in Tamriel (see Places of Note: Throat of the World). Only in the west do the mountains abate to the canyons and mesas of the Reach, by far the most cosmopolitan of the Holds of Skyrim, Nords of the pure blood holding only the barest majority according to the recent Imperial Census. The rest of Skyrim is a vertical world: the high ridges of the northwest-to-southeast slanting mountain ranges, cleft by deep, narrow valleys where most of the population resides. Along the sides of the river valleys, sturdy Nord farmers raise a wide variety of crops; wheat flourishes in the relatively temperate river bottoms, while only the snowberry bushes can survive in the high orchards near the treeline. The original Nord settlements were generally established on rocky crags overlooking a river valley; many of these villages still survive in the more isolated Holds, especially along the Morrowind frontier. In most of Skyrim, however, this defensive posture was deemed unnecessary by the mid-first era, and most cities and towns today lie on the valley floors, in some cases still overlooked by the picturesque ruins of the earlier settlement.
- From the http://www.imperial-library.info/pge/skyrim.shtml

And I believe its been stated somewhere that the nords had brought horses over to Morrowind during the first empire. I just don't know where :P

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:17 am

No, Nords don't like horses. Other than on a plate that is. I think there's even a mention of this in game (Oblivion, see Bruma stables). Nords defenetly don't make good riders in TES.

I'd say Imperials. What is odd in Oblivion (the game) when you think about it is the fact that best horses are bred by a Dunmer of all people, near the Morrowind border. Now I know that Vvardenfell didn't have horses because of the isolationism and all (supposedly, it was a gameplay/technical thing anyhow) and that it doesn't mean Morrowind can't have them, but I think it's generally accepted that Dunmer don't really use horses most of the time. So this strikes me as odd :)


Read my comments ;)


Mind you that was referring to Vvardenfell I think. Maybe a few horses survive uneaten on the mainland of morrowind.


He was refering to Vvardenfell. Plains mean wide open grassy lands with some rolling hills perhaps. That is perfect for horses and makes sense in the case of Cheydinhal which more or less is a Dunmer community in Cyrodiil. In my RPs the Cheydinhal breed is actually a breed from the Dashaan.


Actualy, Immortal, Skyrim isn't at all what most people believe it to be. I've grown acustome to posting this bit from the PGE every time someone says something about Skyrim just being ice and snow.

- From the http://www.imperial-library.info/pge/skyrim.shtml

And I believe its been stated somewhere that the nords had brought horses over to Morrowind during the first empire. I just don't know where :P



That's a good point. I guess horses could be in Skyrim. It is just that Nords don't strike me as the horseman type. This is more so because of what they are based on, real life nords.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:28 pm

Understandable. The Imperials don't quite strike me as good horseman either to be honest. The Imperial race is known for being excellent foot/heavy infantry soldiers, but not calvary men, much like how the Roman's were. Seem's to me, while they of course have their own calvary, they would higher or bring in auxiliaries from the other, more horse prominent cultures, to supplement them in battle.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:10 pm

Reminds me of the Barenziah story and how Symmachus (ironic name) was some sort of cavalry rider in the Legion.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:22 pm

Just did a quick search at TIL
couldn't find anything about horseman except http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/mirror.shtml and http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/corpse_preparation.shtml. They do suggest bretons have a tradition of nomadic horseman
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:30 am

Why has no-one mentioned that Kajiit ride EACH OTHER yet?


I mean-- Senche-Raht are like-- UBER HUGE, on the size scale of elephants--- and are ridden in wartime.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:41 am

I hope no one's talking about mounted combat! That's a ridiculous idea, and if I'm correct, may also be blasphemy...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:28 pm

Why has no-one mentioned that Kajiit ride EACH OTHER yet?
I mean-- Senche-Raht are like-- UBER HUGE, on the size scale of elephants--- and are ridden in wartime.


Because they're not horses.

People, Bretons and Reachmen! They're the only ones that has nomadic horseman as their heritage.

In my native High Rock, traditions dating back to the witch kings and nomadic horseman mandate cremation of the dead.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:03 pm

I would have to say Bosmer,their ability to speak with animals and agility would make more sense than any other race.Also if you consider there Archery skills they would be a force to be reckoned with.Breton's don't make much sense if you consider what we know of High Rock.Nords would be excellent at heavy calvary,Imperials would go medium.This would make the most sense to me.Orcs eat their horses so we know that wouldn't be a good fit.Lizards and cats I just can't see riding horses.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:59 am

I would have to say Bosmer,their ability to speak with animals and agility would make more sense than any other race.Also if you consider there Archery skills they would be a force to be reckoned with.Breton's don't make much sense if you consider what we know of High Rock.Nords would be excellent at heavy calvary,Imperials would go medium.This would make the most sense to me.Orcs eat their horses so we know that wouldn't be a good fit.Lizards and cats I just can't see riding horses.



Except for the fact that bosmer DONT LIVE ON THE GROUND IN VALENWOOD. :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:44 pm

I would have to say Bosmer,their ability to speak with animals and agility would make more sense than any other race.Also if you consider there Archery skills they would be a force to be reckoned with.Breton's don't make much sense if you consider what we know of High Rock.Nords would be excellent at heavy calvary,Imperials would go medium.This would make the most sense to me.Orcs eat their horses so we know that wouldn't be a good fit.Lizards and cats I just can't see riding horses.


Did you not play Oblivion or read Corpse Preparation quote I posted? Lizards and cats can ride horses. Bretons were nomadic horseman. Christ...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:34 am

Centaurs. Duh.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:50 am

Understandable. The Imperials don't quite strike me as good horseman either to be honest. The Imperial race is known for being excellent foot/heavy infantry soldiers, but not calvary men, much like how the Roman's were. Seem's to me, while they of course have their own calvary, they would higher or bring in auxiliaries from the other, more horse prominent cultures, to supplement them in battle.

The Legion does have very competent patrolmen in cyrodiil. The Roman cavalry was very important and effective, even if most of their forces were infantry.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:45 am

The Romans had [censored] for cavalry. All things being relative they were an afterthought. Almost always auxiliaries and mostly more modern.

They're equestrian credentials are null because of comparison to the other ancient peoples if nothing else.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:44 pm

The Romans had [censored] for cavalry. All things being relative they were an afterthought. Almost always auxiliaries and mostly more modern.

They're equestrian credentials are null because of comparison to the other ancient peoples if nothing else.

All things relative their horseman were still quite effective in comparison to the cavalry other cultures at the time. After all, their infantry weren't the only competent soldiers in their army.

EDIT: Carthage's elephant cavalry doesn't count. We're talking about horse cavalry.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:20 pm

The Romans had [censored] for cavalry. All things being relative they were an afterthought. Almost always auxiliaries and mostly more modern.

They're equestrian credentials are null because of comparison to the other ancient peoples if nothing else.


I'd have to agree here
Even during the Republican period the Italian allies were regarded as better
cavalry troops than the Romans themselves and the Italian allies didn't match up to the Numidians, Iberians, Gauls, Germans etc, hell, anybody who knew 1 end of a horse from another. If the Romans are used as the basis for Imperials then the Imperials have dreadful cavalry

edit: And if we're talking post-Republican than as paw-prints says we're talking auxilleries, not Roman at all really. Byzantine cavalry were quite good but they were mostly recruited from barbarians
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