Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and A Saucerful of Secrets were pretty good. Better than Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother .
That's what I tend to hear from fans. I misspoke before because I have heard some off of Piper, albeit very little.
Also, Jimmy Page isn't that good at all, IMO. If he wasn't in Zeppelin I doubt anyone would know who he was. He's pretty good, but he's not amazing.
I disagree. I think that if Page wasn't in Zeppelin, he would have just helped make another band huge. He and John Paul Jones were pretty prominent studio musicians pre-Zeppelin, so I'm sure he wouldn't have trouble finding others to play with. While his guitar work can be quite sloppy (though still remarkable, I think), Page really shined in his contribution to original song-writing, despite the sometimes overt plagiarism they got away with all those years.