I'd be fine with no separate greaves as long as we could layer armor over clothing.

We just don't know yet. We'll have to wait for the fan interview.

Maybe the greaves are not named simply "Iron Greaves?" Like the "Banded Iron Shield" shown on top and the regular "Iron Shield" we barely caught a glimpse of, perhaps the greaves are " Iron Greaves."

I'm trying to be hopeful here. Inside I'm just as disappointed and scared of what the true answer might be like everyone else, because I could see the stubby and deformed looking greaves on the elven armor plain as day. And I really don't want that to be true.

That armor item you see is in fact just a way of letting you grab/sell all the armor in a set at the same time. If you look closely it has the combined weight armor and value of the parts under it.

Seperate Leg and chest armour plz will be ur best friend...

You might be right with this. Makes sense and its easier....good thinking batman.

I certainly hope so anyway.

That says, "Iron Shield". You can see it much more clearly in the HD video of G4's demo.

So, alphabetically, that rules out "Iron Greaves" and "Iron Leggings".

There's not much hope for separate greaves...

Thank you for your input and you are right also, it probably is finished like I said too. So maybe everyone could stop complaining and save it for when we can play and test the game ourselves. It seems after a 14 minute demo at E3. Todd and Pete have opened up a whole new can of worms on the forums here...lol

Go back to the video, and pause exactly when the elven armor shows. Look closely.
The elven armor ONLY shows protection for the upper body, meaning that IF that included the greaves, then you would feel pretty cold around your legs.
Thus, the better conclusion would be no. Just because it wasn't shown, doesn't mean it's not there.
Don't worry, with over thousands of armor pieces, there has to be greaves.

I don't know about this, because sometimes we see the player character wearing "iron armor" (the armor we've seen over and over) with a shirt underneath and sometimes he doesn't have a shirt underneath. But also, we sometimes see him wearing the greaves that are part of the "iron armor" with that same shirt, yet without the chest armor or pauldrons... So I'm not convinced one way or the other on how the armor works. Maybe different armor types work differently.

They'll probably explain this in the fan interview. They already said that they'd be answering our armor questions.

Far less probably than combining greaves and cuirass, combining them with boots would still give you the greaves / cuirass clipping, boots/ greaves had less clipping issues than gloves/ cuirass.
Someone suggested that the fur wraparound everyone is wearing is underwear, possible however I guess it would clip with the elven cuirass from the 3D model view of it. More probably it was some sort of greaves or loincloth who was further down in the appeal list.

That shot of the Elven armor is exactly how it looks if you would take it out of your inventory. Out of the inventory, I doubt the armor model would have both the greaves and the cuirass. Just look at Oblivion and Fallout 3. The cuirass models, or full-armor models from Fallout did not contain all the different pieces such as pauldrons. Only the chest piece. Bethesda wanted to keep the models condensed when they were in the worldspace. For example, if you drop a full suit of power-armor on the ground in FO3/NV, the model is only a small piece of the chest armor.

Looking at the Elven armor in the inventory again, it is a condensed version. Just look at the chainmail pieces hanging on the bottom and the surrounding thigh armor. http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/akqacms/files/tes/screenshots/Cave01_wLegal.jpg screenshot shows them, only they are much larger than the condensed version of the Elven armor model shown in the inventory (or independent in the worldspace). The screenshot shows those pieces covering all of the thigh, which is greave territory. I think it's safe to assume those are the greave pieces.

However somebody posted the 3D view of the elven armor, they probably use a video editing tool to pick out the frame. The 3D model was not shown from front but from a higher tilted view.
It showed a 3d model of the armor, you clearly see the chainmail skirt, arm armor to the wrists but no greaves, it was not simply clipped like the robe as the skirt was longer than the visible part of the robe.

And people were convinced that we would get separate pauldrons, now the armor is even more condensed. What a sad day in customization, what a sad day indeed. :cryvaultboy:

Yes, that's the model I'm talking about. The skirt, etc. is the greaves, they've just been condensed.

Everyone assumes and worries too much.
As soon as I saw the cuirass I looked for the greaves. Didn't find any, so I looked at the cuirass again and saw there were no greaves at the bottom. I'm not worried. You shouldn't be either.

I'm sorry, but you don't know that, and it is not confirmed. What am I missing? It doesn't look like greaves, and no one has said it's combined. And plus there was a lot of talk about armor being able to be combined in the inventory (sort of like the Nine armor on the mannequin). So. Yeah. Not confirmed.

One other feature in the inventory is that like in fallout 3 and unlike Morrowind and Oblivion it does not show your character

since the elven armor is shown in great detail in the demo. i will make one point. the item is referred to as "elven armor". NOT as an "elven cuirass" which is represented in the image associated with the item. indicating that all armor that is not part of the extremities is part of a condensed armor set.

that said im NOT thrilled abt the idea of a condensed armor set. i never wore armored boots helm or cuirass. only greaves and gauntlets.

On the demo I saw

Elven Armor (arrow pointing up)
elven gauntlets
elven helmet
Iron Armor (arrow pointing down)

So because of the arrows... i am still hoping that all the armor is just listed under certain categories.
Hopefully the armor is just book marked

This

I'd heard that while armor came as connected suits in Fallout, from a modder's perspective there were as many as 16 useable slots for purposes of how things displayed.

I know this doesn't help console players much, but if I understand correctly it means that at least for the PC people there's potential for a great many more equipment slots than even Morrowind or Daggerfall if they've done something similar with Skyrim.

Can someone who's modded Fallout please confirm or invalidate this?

I wish someone from Bethesda would just clarify this.

Truth: We don't know.

We're guessing they were combined with boots.

Good lord me too. I mean seriously.