Green patches on corpses- MMM related : IV

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:40 am

Hi all, I believe this topic have been asked to death, but I had searched around and tried the various methods like renaming the.bsa to Frans, excluding the MMM in my bashed pactch, but I'm still getting these green patches on the goblin's corpses. I had also uninstalled and reinstalled Oblivion and installed my mods one by one and found out that it is indeed MMM's issue. Is there any way to remedy it? If not, I may have to unistalled this wonderful mod and just go with Frans' or maybe just installed Warcry.

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My installed mods

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
05 Toaster Says Share v3.esm
06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
** TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp
** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]
07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
08 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0B Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.2]
0C AliveWaters.esp
0D Bedrollsanyone.esp
0E ChaseCameraMod.esp
0F personality_idles3b.esp
10 Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp
++ VA_BetterGold.esp
11 DLCHorseArmor.esp
12 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
13 DLCOrrery.esp
14 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
15 DLCVileLair.esp
16 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
17 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
18 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
19 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
1A VA_UniqueKatana1.esp
++ VA_UniqueKatana1Replace.esp
1B DLCThievesDen.esp
1C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1E Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp
1F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
20 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
21 Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp
22 Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp
23 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
24 Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp
25 Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp
++ Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp
26 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
27 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp
28 Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
29 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
2A DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2B DLCFrostcrag.esp
2C DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2D Knights.esp
2E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
2F NPC new clothes V2.6.esp
30 Enchanted Portable Tent.esp
31 Bonds Big Portable Tent.esp
32 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
33 Leviathan Soulgems.esp
34 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
35 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
** [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
36 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
42 Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
43 Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
45 Mart's Monster Mod - No Balrogs.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
46 Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
47 Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
48 Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
49 Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4A Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4B Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4D Mart's Monster Mod - No Wyvern.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4E Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4F Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
50 Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
51 Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:02 pm

What did you rename the MMM BSA to? Try "DLCShiveringIsles - MMM.bsa".

--Tomlong75210

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:37 pm

What did you rename the MMM BSA to? Try "DLCShiveringIsles - MMM.bsa".

--Tomlong75210

I used the OMOD installer and thus it renamed the MMM.bsa to Mart's Monster Mod for Fran. I chose that option as I have Frans' mod installed. Ok I will rename the bsa to DLCShiveringIsles - MMM.bsa

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:30 pm

I used the OMOD installer and thus it renamed the MMM.bsa to Mart's Monster Mod for Fran. I chose that option as I have Frans' mod installed. Ok I will rename the bsa to DLCShiveringIsles - MMM.bsa

Oh, well, that renaming should work...so long as Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp is active. Hmmm...

--Tomlong75210

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:33 pm

Renamed the data file folder of Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.bsa to DLCShiveringIsles - MMM.bsa, but it is still the same, or is there anypart I do wrongly; perhaps I should edit Oblivion.ini?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:30 am

Hi,
What form of Archive Invalidation are you using?

BSA-redirection

This method works by tricking the Oblivion game engine into using its bugged ArchiveInvalidation method on the wrong BSA file. By doing this, it allows all files in the main Textures BSA to be reliably superseded by any more recent files found in your Textures folder.
OBMM

For OBMM users:
Start OBMM.
Click Utilities.
Select Archive invalidation. You'll get a popup window.
Click BSA redirection (it's the default choice).
Click Update Now.
Close the Archive invalidation popup (click the red X in the upper-left corner).
Quit OBMM or click Launch Oblivion.

Wrye Bash (Bain)
For Wrye Bash users:
Start Wrye Bash.
Go to Installers tab.
Right-click the column header.
Select "BSA Redirection".

I use the Bash one...

Edit : The LO Has MMM after Bashed Patch. BOSS will straighten that out. I run FCOM but others could help with a FRAN /MMM Install.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:02 am

MMM shouldn't contain replacer files...although I think it contains a few, but nothing on NPCs... Is your game patched to the latest version OP?

--Tomlong75210

Edit: Wow, I'd just assumed there wasn't a Bashed Patch in that LO. Ooops... Good catch, camaro. Definitely run BOSS on that load order. Things probably aren't even being imported into the game properly. I can't really tell.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:51 am

I laughed really hard here, its meant to be like that. Its part of the "blood system" the goblins have green blood. Deactivating "Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp" should solve it.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:15 pm

03 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] shouldn't be used together with Mart's Monster Mod

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:54 am

Hi,
What form of Archive Invalidation are you using?

I use the Bash one...

Edit : The LO Has MMM after Bashed Patch. BOSS will straighten that out. I run FCOM but others could help with a FRAN /MMM Install.

Am using the OMOD archive invalidation. But my option was the BSA alteration, just changed as according to your guide, but evertything still remains the same, except that my archiveinvalidation file disappeared. Is that normal?

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:52 pm

@ Tomlong: Yep My game is patched to the latest patch.And thanks for the reminder I realised that I have forgotten to reload my mod order by BOSS.

@Hex: YEs! You have got it, its the extra wound.esp effect that is causing, this corpse having green patches, I really thought I was having the same problem some fellow players are having here, didn't realise it is that mod. But still the green textures looks a bit weird to me maybe not seamless enough, personally I feel that the normal red blood should be better. Well I guessed I have to live with it.

@shikishima: Ok, I disabled it, but strangely Boss did not state any confilct of it with MMM. Any reason why I shouldn't load it with MMM? Is it because it may cause doubling, just like that dreaded doubling bug in Morrowind?

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:15 pm

@shikishima: Ok, I disabled it, but strangely Boss did not state any confilct of it with MMM. Any reason why I shouldn't load it with MMM? Is it because it may cause doubling, just like that dreaded doubling bug in Morrowind?

Because MMM already contains all the Creatures that Frans has plus more..

Please read the MMM Frans Install , link in sig to MMM thread,

has you will need to reinstall Frans and not select Creatures during the Install and a Few other things has well..

and MMM.bsa should be named -> Mart's Monster Mod for Frans.bsa <- so that all resources get loaded correctly including Voice Files..

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:13 pm

I'm actually encountering green patches where the blood should be, not green like goblin blood, a more blue-green. Has this been brought up before? It's weird, it seems to only happen in interiors, or the one interior I had tried. I attacked an NPC outdoors, they got bloody like normal, ran away into a chapel, and when I followed them inside the red blood had turned to the bright green-blue color. Hadn't seen it before the other day.