Greenhouse Effect?

Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:30 pm

But then again they didn't use gasoline, but fusion batteries, so maybe global warming wasn't a problem? Still though, each time a Fat Man is launched, what does it to to the atmosphere?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
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Kim Kay
 
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:21 pm

Absolutely nothing, C4 can have larger explosions than a fat man, and I don't think any tests or use are contributing to any type of greenhouse effect.
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Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:50 am

They said entire continents got swallowed whole, however. That's a global warming thing, right?
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:26 pm

No it would be cooling. The debris would layer the Earth so less sunlight would get in, thus everything gets cooler. That is a pretty general term for nuclear winter, and it is unclear if there was a nuclear winter at all, as it wouldn't have lasted to Fallout 1.
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:10 pm

They said entire continents got swallowed whole, however. That's a global warming thing, right?


They were swalloed whole in nuclear fire...
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April D. F
 
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:57 pm

How about when fusion batteries explode? Like those cars going boom. Effect on atmosphere?
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Chris Ellis
 
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Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:58 am

Think about it, it has taken years and years to get a few degress above "normal" So what do you think several fission batteries occasionally going off would do?
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:21 pm

Well some pollutants (CFC maybe) take their sweet time going up, decades before even messing up the atmosphere. Probably some others.
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:39 pm

Don't nuclear weapon make the planet colder due to all material they put in air that would reflect sun light.
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:05 pm

No it would be cooling. The debris would layer the Earth so less sunlight would get in, thus everything gets cooler. That is a pretty general term for nuclear winter, and it is unclear if there was a nuclear winter at all, as it wouldn't have lasted to Fallout 1.

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Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:57 am

I did not read that post sorry, I just write from what I know would would happen.
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:33 pm

I did not read that post sorry, I just write from what I know would would happen.

No problem, I just didn't feel like typing anything, several clicks got it done.
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Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:03 am

Nuclear weapons completely destroyed the Ozone Layer and the Sun's harmful rays would've killed off all life if nuclear winter hadn't set in. I guess the Ozone reformed after time but not to its original strength which is probably why it seems like everwhere is a desert.


I do not think the greenhouse affect would even factor in.
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Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:38 am

Nuclear weapons completely destroyed the Ozone Layer and the Sun's harmful rays would've killed off all life if nuclear winter hadn't set in. I guess the Ozone reformed after time but not to its original strength which is probably why it seems like everwhere is a desert.


It is true that even a limited nuclear exchange would likely destory the Ozone layer and wipe out all life on earth. [regardless of nuclear winter] but that research is much more modern. Fallout is based in 1950's science fiction and a desert wasteland is what they imagined as the outcome of Nuclear war.
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Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:35 am

It is true that even a limited nuclear exchange would likely destory the Ozone layer and wipe out all life on earth. [regardless of nuclear winter] but that research is much more modern. Fallout is based in 1950's science fiction and a desert wasteland is what they imagined as the outcome of Nuclear war.


I'm pretty sure they knew about the ozone layer and thought that it might be destroyed by nuclear weaponry, I'll look it up.

Andperhaps they believed that nuclear winter would block out the sun for long enough that they ozone layer could reform a bit before the dust clears.

EDIT/UPDATE- I looked it up, we discovered that the ozone layer existed in the late 1800s so they might've thought that it would be destroyed by nuclear weaponry, I don't know and nothing comes up when I Google it...
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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:59 pm

I'm pretty sure they knew about the ozone layer and thought that it might be destroyed by nuclear weaponry, I'll look it up.

Andperhaps they believed that nuclear winter would block out the sun for long enough that they ozone layer could reform a bit before the dust clears.

EDIT/UPDATE- I looked it up, we discovered that the ozone layer existed in the late 1800s so they might've thought that it would be destroyed by nuclear weaponry, I don't know and nothing comes up when I Google it...

They thought it was possible that Nuclear weapons could set the atmosphere on fire and thus wipe out all life on earth. However this was proven not to be the case. That was infact mentioned shortly before the first nuclear test. But really that not possible at least not with any nuclear weapon thats ever been built. It was later research starting from the 70's that showed a limited Nuclear exchange could deplete the ozone layer to such a point it kill everyone on earth from the UV radiation. The nulcear winter would make things colder but do little for the UV radiation.
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Post » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:39 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter#Ozone_depletion

There is a 2008 study on nuclear war between India and Pakistan. Here is the abstract-

Massive global ozone loss predicted following regional nuclear conflict

We use a chemistry-climate model and new estimates of smoke produced by fires in contemporary cities to calculate the impact on stratospheric ozone of a regional nuclear war between developing nuclear states involving 100 Hiroshima-size bombs exploded in cities in the northern subtropics. We find column ozone losses in excess of 20% globally, 25–45% at midlatitudes, and 50–70% at northern high latitudes persisting for 5 years, with substantial losses continuing for 5 additional years. Column ozone amounts remain near or <220 Dobson units at all latitudes even after three years, constituting an extratropical “ozone hole.” The resulting increases in UV radiation could impact the biota significantly, including serious consequences for human health. The primary cause for the dramatic and persistent ozone depletion is heating of the stratosphere by smoke, which strongly absorbs solar radiation. The smoke-laden air rises to the upper stratosphere, where removal mechanisms are slow, so that much of the stratosphere is ultimately heated by the localized smoke injections. Higher stratospheric temperatures accelerate catalytic reaction cycles, particularly those of odd-nitrogen, which destroy ozone. In addition, the strong convection created by rising smoke plumes alters the stratospheric circulation, redistributing ozone and the sources of ozone-depleting gases, including N2O and chlorofluorocarbons. The ozone losses predicted here are significantly greater than previous “nuclear winter/UV spring” calculations, which did not adequately represent stratospheric plume rise. Our results point to previously unrecognized mechanisms for stratospheric ozone depletion.

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Post » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:17 pm

NASA scientists speculated that if 15% of the US and USSR ICBMs were launched, it would knock out the O-Zone for up to 25 years in places causing radiation from the sun. They think a full scale global thermal nuclear war ( everything goes) would at least destroy the O-Zone for over 50 years most everywhere.

The sun would send a lot of radiation to earth once the o-zone was destroyed, but the O-zone apparently has the ability to repair its self over time if no more damage continues. I looked for what would really happen a few months ago for several hours.



The nuclear powered cars in fo came out less than 10 years before the war according to the fo bible time line. FYI
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