Hey-yo, how are you all going? Psyched for Fallout 4?

Anyway, I never quite got the hate for GTA 4. I will still boot it up just to tool around the city once in a while, and I can find places I never saw before. Can you say that any individual storyline in GTA 5 really beats GTA 4?

With GTA 5, I really loved the world, but the story missed for me by just a little bit. The South Central storyline was not as good as San Andreas, the Trevor storyline I did not really care about at all, and the Hollywood storyline was great but not mind-blowing.

Whereas I really enjoyed all three storylines from GTA 4. Especially Gay Tony, that got me into the city in a way that GTA 5 did not manage to do. And you had endless gang wars in GTA 4, whereas you can't just find a big fight offline in GTA 5. (I mean, for random chaos I had more fun than GTA 5 offline back in Vice City killing the Haitian gang members who would attack you when you went into their territory, though I felt really guilty about it at the time of the earthquake.)

I really liked the Niko story, and I didn't care about phonecalls because you could ignore them with no real penalty. Wasn't the ending better there? As I recall I was drunk and put a couple of clips into the guy at the end of the game, but I was still kind of conflicted. And I had to think about whether to kill my wife to save my cousin (I saved my cousin both times I played all the way through). Whereas at the end of GTA 5, with the guy in the trunk, I was more "meh". He was not that annoying.

I think at the time people were comparing GTA 4 to San Andreas, which was an amazing game (I bought it for various platforms and played through many times) but GTA 4 had such a well realized world, if you ask me, and the stories were a bit better written. So it was not so big, so what? Is size everything?

So does nostalgia make you rethink your opinion of GTA 4? Or will you always hate it?

GTA 4 had imo the best story of any GTA, but San Andreas has the better game world. Hard to beat 3 cities and 6 counties.

GTA 5 by far has the most beautiful and fleshed out world, plus it's online is far superior to GTA 4 and also RDR (which was the best until GTA Online). Single player wise though, GTA5 sits in the middle between GTA4 and GTASA.

I would agree with that. Probably I got "lost" in San Andreas more than any other GTA game. But maybe that was down to the time that I played it.

As for Red Dead Redemption, I have a great admiration for it artistically. I can't fault it at all. At the time it was made, it was a work of genius.

But I am still waiting for Rockstar to do Blade Runner. That would be my ideal game.

GTA V has a better game world, but runs out of things to do quickly as the focus was obviously on line from the start, i couldn't get immersed for long. played for 3 weeks, finished it once, then stopped mostly. i'm not a multi player fan.

GTA IV is more story based, but the world was like a real city simulator, the fun factor was missing for me, finished the game once, never got far replaying it, again didn't stay immersed for long.

San Andreas, still way out in front for me, played for months constantly immersed until Oblivion came out, loved it, i prefer it in every way, one of the few games i would like to see get a real hd remaster.