No, Mr. guard Sir, I did not throw a rock at Umbra... : IV

» Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:27 pm

One of my favorite Oblivion the pastimes is to run around gathering high-level mobs and then running into town. This is usually followed by guards townspeople and of course run in front me. The idea is to have them do the dirty work for me, it's especially fun with open cities. My problem I've run into is when they're attacked by like six guards they totally ignore the guards and still go after me. Is there any sort of mod fixes that or is it just normal behavior? Sometimes they just sit there and let the guards of whale on them and then all of a sudden come after me again.

I'm running deadly reflexes, unnecessary violence II and Reneers Guard Overhaul. As a side note sometimes the guards have a hard time deciding to use their Torch or silver bow. They constantly switch between the two until enemies are really close. I don't think the CPUs being overloaded by AI due to the fact that the attacking guards function just fine. As a last note, if you think of any mods that might be fun to add or if you see any that are horribly overpowering, post about it.

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A little update- I looked at my stats and noticed Infamy is at 100. This is with a brand-new not even an hour old character. Who hasn't killed anybody or broken the law. My character didn't start with those stats.

» Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:33 pm

I hate to say it, but nothing is leaping out at me. Your best bet is to go back to a previous save right before you use that tactic, do another save just so it is readily available, then check your infamy at that point. Reset it to 0, and save again maybe. At which point, I'd disable any mod that might even remotely deal with the issue, one at a time, and run through the scenario.

Also, did you check to see if there is a bounty on you?

» Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:43 pm

I hate to say it, but nothing is leaping out at me. Your best bet is to go back to a previous save right before you use that tactic, do another save just so it is readily available, then check your infamy at that point. Reset it to 0, and save again maybe. At which point, I'd disable any mod that might even remotely deal with the issue, one at a time, and run through the scenario.

Also, did you check to see if there is a bounty on you?

He's not talking about the guards coming after him. He's talking about the spawns. Despite being attacked by an overwhelming number of guards, the spawned enemies ignore them and continue chasing the player.