Guess that Ore

Post » Wed May 18, 2011 7:38 pm

Sorry, just a joke, I agree and would want to see Coal as kind of the "soul gem" of the smiths.
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Brian LeHury
 
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:34 pm

I'd like to know as well. I think it might have been the magazine article that came out recently. But I'd like an actual quote. Time for some google-fu.

I'd like to know the total types of materials besides ores, like wood and leather and bones, etc.

It might be weird to see 13 types of metallic ore, and only one kind of wood...

It was from the Playstation the official magazine :)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 8:41 am

Ebony + Daedric soul?
Stalhrim?
Bronze?

I'd give Steel its own category.

We're talking about ores, not metals.

Coal + Iron = Steel

I'm guessng:

Iron
Coal
Mithril
Glass
Ebony
Adamantine or admantium
Silver

Some kind of way to smith daedric??
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:27 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal:Adamantium_Ore

HAHAHA i thought you guys meant anamantium as in what wolverine has in his body and what captain America's shield is made out of lol my bad
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 10:41 pm

We're talking about ores, not metals.

Some kind of way to smith daedric??


Summon Scamp + Ebony Ore = Daedric!


More specifically, I'm thinking creating Daedric crafting materials would require Daedra Hearts+Ebony Ores. It would make enough sense in the lore of the game, and enough sense in gameplay context, right?

I think you are right. But there are contradictory sources, like the Manual of Armor and Manual of Arms that list ebony and daedric as clearly two separate materials.


They're as different as Iron and Steel, or Copper and Bronze.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 3:32 am

after some looking into it on Google: Aluminum, Nickel, and strong thinks like Tungsten or Titanium are the only real world ones I can think of. In another thread on the same topic I only later found http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1197328-13-ore-types/ someone mentioned that Orc armor might come from a unique ore, according to "some book" does anyone know which one?
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:28 am

They're as different as Iron and Steel, or Copper and Bronze.


But the difference is, sources speak of 'daedric' being a condition that is applied a finished product. But the manuals of arms/armor speak of "daedric" as a raw material to be crafted.

I just pictured one side describing trapping a daedric element into a ready made ebony weapon, and the manuals are describing daedric elements being bound to raw ebony which is than used to make weapons.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 8:59 pm

Wouldn′t it be cool if there was some really cold part of Skyrim that was so cold that someone was able to build a mercury fortress there, and that you′d bring it down by melting it :P ? Suppose that′s off topic though. Perhaps we can get lead ?
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:33 am

Another thing just occurred to me, if the Red Mt. erupted then were would Glass and Ebony (and by magical extension Deadra) ores come from? It makes sense that the pre-existent armour and weapons would exist but no new ones can be made?

Does this mean no Glass or Ebony? Will the armour be much rarer in Skyrim? Will we have to (quest) find an alternate means? Oh the suspense is killing me why is 11 11 11 so far away?
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:58 am

im greatly looking forward to the ore

im guessing its for the crafting, i hope you can make powerful stuff with it, not just mediocer stuff.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:25 am

I disagree with that whole idea of magic replacing technology. Because than this whole thread would be pointless and we would ONLY have bound weapons and armor. And plus, I don't think your typical blacksmith is going to be well trained enough to keep a fire spell going while making masterwork weapons/armor. And I don't think he's going to spend the gold to hire a mage to stand by and keep his furnace hot. Coal is much cheaper, hypothetically, if my imagination isn't running wild...


Added to the fact that it's the carbon, not the fire, that turns iron into steel.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 8:00 pm

Weapons made out of gold? I'd prefer smashing my foes with a stick.
Maybe weapons coated in gold? That sounds better.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:33 am

That is why I put Jewellery in parentheses, as I don't see its use as a weapon, even if silver is used as such. Gold is, however, actually an ore rather than bone or leather which I have heard suggested in the past. But yes, if smithing us just making weapons and not also jewellery making then Gold I can only imagine as being useless. But, we have seen it as an ore in previous games.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:54 am

Stretching the term a bit, maybe a few of the ores are gemstones of some kind. Whatever soul gems are made out of, for example.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 7:10 am

I am really happy about this. I just hope we must have extensive traning before we make alot of the items (not nearly as much with wood exept for laminated bows). I mean we cant be expected to go make a well balanced durable steel Katana or somthing right outa jail with no experiance doing so. Possibly in char creation or in the tutorial (prob extended dono but my gut tells me it will be). It might let us pick one type of in game proffesion we had experiance with as a child. I want a realism mode for the game so farming can be usefull. POOR KAHJIT ARCHER WITH A SMALL FARM WOOT. (I am secretly the listener)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:10 am

Oh heavens, I would laugh the blue off my [censored] if Thorium was included.

Well, let me see here. Mercury was an ingredient in Daggerfall, as was Platinum and Sulphur, along with some others. And I can see possibly Cobalt (and also laugh at this) being used... maybe Aluminium.

Oh, and I believe the silver is a specially treated alchemical silver lining when used in weapons. No telling what could happen with the other metals if a wizard gets his hands on it.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:43 am

I figure crafting skill will affect your success rate, or more likely item quality. Not sure how they'll limit what items you can make. Possibly you'll have to collect "recipes" of some kind?
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 7:38 pm

I don't a character will be crafting super awesome katanas right off the bat. No worries. And I imagine there will be perks for learning how to smith cultural/stylistic varieties of weapons as well (Dwarven, Orc, etc).
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:03 am

I don't a character will be crafting super awesome katanas right off the bat. No worries. And I imagine there will be perks for learning how to smith cultural/stylistic varieties of weapons as well (Dwarven, Orc, etc).


Forget perks. Uncovering the lost crafting secrets of the dwarves should be its own quest.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:08 am

Well I didn't mean to imply it was a perk one could simply level to. There are lots of quest related perks and "discovered" or earned perks that were done in previous games.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:41 am

it would be awesome if there were rare variations of certain ore... red or blue glass for instance. (it wouldent occur naturaly)


remember that alloys will need to be craftable aswell :)


perhaps bonemould or chitin will be classed as an "ore" (despite not being an ore, but still mouldable )
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:31 pm

Possibly Dwemer? Not as in unrefined ore per se, but smelted down/reused from scrap and such found in Dwemer ruins?


Judging by its appearance, I'd assume it's simply Bronze or Brass. Bronze if you mix copper and tin, Brass if you mix copper and zinc. Regardless, the armor has a very coppery sheen typical with those two materials. I think Brass is more likely, because Bronze oxidizes with time and turns a http://www.visitingdc.com/images/statue-of-liberty-picture.jpg. Brass, on the other hand, retains its quality. Nothing in the dwarven ruins looked corroded like Bronze does, so it is safer to rule out Bronze as a material used by them.

However, that is just the armor in Oblivion. The armor of Morrowind was different because it could rust and http://members.shaw.ca/rado907/armor/heavy/mor-dwemerarmor.jpg. Rust, officially known as Iron Oxide, requires Iron, as the name implies. Neither Bronze nor Brass contain iron, and thus cannot rust. The Dwemer armor in Morrowind must have been made of a different substance that contained Iron. Possibly Cast Iron which can occasionally have a very dark-brown color. But the pristine coppery sheen of Oblivion's armor leads me to believe it is made of Brass.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:46 am

Thorium as an ore? Isn't it radioactive?
Btw, I get the reference
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:35 am

Judging by its appearance, I'd assume it's simply Bronze or Brass. Bronze if you mix copper and tin, Brass if you mix copper and zinc. Regardless, the armor has a very coppery sheen typical with those two materials. I think Brass is more likely, because Bronze oxidizes with time and turns a http://www.visitingdc.com/images/statue-of-liberty-picture.jpg. Brass, on the other hand, retains its quality. Nothing in the dwarven ruins looked corroded like Bronze does, so it is safer to rule out Bronze as a material used by them.

However, that is just the armor in Oblivion. The armor of Morrowind was different because it could rust and http://members.shaw.ca/rado907/armor/heavy/mor-dwemerarmor.jpg. Rust, officially known as Iron Oxide, requires Iron, as the name implies. Neither Bronze nor Brass contain iron, and thus cannot rust. The Dwemer armor in Morrowind must have been made of a different substance that contained Iron. Possibly Cast Iron which can occasionally have a very dark-brown color. But the pristine coppery sheen of Oblivion's armor leads me to believe it is made of Brass.


I also think it was brass. Vivec's lessons talk about them having brass siege weapons. And that giant walking robot thing was made of brass (or coated in it). But it could also be some fantasy alloy with mithril or adamantium mixed in right?
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:48 pm

I also think it was brass. Vivec's lessons talk about them having brass siege weapons. And that giant walking robot thing was made of brass (or coated in it). But it could also be some fantasy alloy with mithril or adamantium mixed in right?


Yeah, it's entirely possible. This is a fantasy world with fantasy metals that have fantasy properties that we can't explain. But at least brass fits the book, and for Morrowind's incarnation of Dwemer armor, iron must be used as a material.

It is also speculated that Morrowind's Dwemer armor wasn't actually armor, but instead just pieces of Dwemer Centurions, which would make sense because the helmet is a centurion head. The Centurions could have been made of iron. Actually, wasn't the one we saw for Skyrim a long time ago gray in color?
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