you gun guys kno BF:3 comes out around the same time as Skyrim?? so get your gun fix there?possibly??

Spears and Crossbows magically vanished. So the same could happen with any type of weapon. Guns would really not be that different from bows especially early guns. In some cases bows would be even more effective.

Yeah we can drop them from the next game, but we can't really whipe them from the lore.

12 kills gets me a ride-able dragon with a steam punk turret mountain on it's back so I can shoot people from above!!! Thanks Top killa' for helping me form this idea!!!

This topic has been done to death. Doesn't this forum have a search function so people can check if there are existing or past threads on a topic before they post?

But that's not how they work. Anyone can use a staff, because they are pre-charged and can be re-charged, which sounds a lot like how a gun works. Even still, if staffs just increased the power of user cast spells, I'd still look down the staff to make sure I was aiming at what I was shooting at if it were far away. It just wouldn't be vary accurate to fire by just thrusting it forward from your hip. If it were close, then I'd fire from the hip, but if it were far away I'd take the time to size up the target.

Word of advice Gandler, just stop talking and everything will be fine, you lost the argument before it even began.

retcon

I hate when anything uses retcon.

lol about every game that i see now a days has guns in it.... i dont really see many games with bow and arrows.

For the millionth time, NO!

Reminds me of a time I was at Gamestop,

Me: Hey Fable 2, maybe it's better that 1.
Friend: Yeah, there are guns now.
Me: Oh yeah? That's cool. Are there still bows?
Friend: No.
*puts game down*
Me: Let's get out of here.

I literally lol'd

You assume they made technology for its own sake. They didn't, and a poor assumption. They desired to reverse creation, and the tech they did make was the sacred (or profane) result of that. They regularly bended the rules of Mundus, and doubted the power of the aedra and daedra, as they sought to go back to the time of existence when Anu and Padomay made their first brushstrokes.

Also, no blueprints have been found, even at the heart of the R&D center of dwemer civilization.

I don't think I have ever played a game with muskets. (Except for some battlefield 1942 mods back in the day but they were mods).

I am not sure what you mean by that the Dwemer made many blueprints. Maybe no musket ones have been found but that does not mean that they don't exist. And even if they don't who says the Dwemer would design them? Maybe the Imperials would to grow their military strength? Or maybe a Great House would to become more powerful? There are many factions that would be interested in gaining more powerful weapons.

Trust me, if people actually did that, there would no longer be any thread about "What is CHIM" or "Is the dunmer based off of (x culture)?" in the lore section. Same applies to guns, six, nudity, and so on in TES general (pre-Skyrim)/Skyrim general section

If you like guns,go play halo,call of duty,red dead,and the other 100 or so games with guns,leave elder scrolls out of it.
You really have a lot of choice when it comes to games with guns......But not the elder scrolls....deal with it.

This is not fall out, so no...I don't want guns in skyrim.

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the dwemer did make crossbows, but most of their statues had spears in them iirc, if anything i bet they would have steam powered crossbows like the constructs under...that city in trubunal

crap what is its name? amelexia? no its um crap i'll edit this later :cryvaultboy:

edit its mounhold, geez thats embarrassing

Okay, no gun blue-prints have been discovered.


And we have yet to see any, ANY indication. At best, crossbows.


Most people incorrectly assume lots of things about the dwemer, especially when it comes to technology


The imperials are hardly cohesive after the fall of the empire some years after the Oblivion Crisis. Not to mention there are insurgents and Aldmeri Domain against constantly attacking them.


The dunmer people are refugees, and were so hard by the argonians, they had to flee to Solstheim and Skyrim. The Great Houses, gone, along with the dunmer culture.

Hellmouth just parried every point in that post. Lawyered!

Oh I'll just throw a dart and take this post.

Hmm, how long has that civilization been around? How relative is 200 years in the history of that land? If one has such great magics, why would one need guns? (I suppose so other non-magical folks could getter done! ). How does your archeology major transfer to the Elderscrolls fantasy setting? OK... I'll stop there...

But

Let's take the:

1)Dwemer: How about some sort of steampunk rifle, or repeating rifle? Common, big, clunky, completely unwieldy and too big to move....but still fits the gun category? Eh? LIke walking into a museum and seeing this relic....maybe even able to fire a round or two!

2) Crazy inventor: Well, see, there's this inventor dude whom you stumble across (or stumbles across you) who is running for his deer life! He has a this new fangled contraption that looks like a pipe with a flame at one end. He turns to shoot an overpowered mountain lion...and KaBlam! It blows up in his face, and he dies :dead: So sad, he had the designs in his head....never wrote them down...and now the prototype...gone! See, there's a gun there!

3) Laser Guns! Now, before you poo-poo this, hear me out! A laser is essentially just photons zipping along a directed path. A beam of high energy, right? Well....what is the schlock..shock spell? A beam of directed high energy! OK, so you contain that beam...along a stick that can be head horizontally, and BINGO! It's a laser gun!!!! :celebration: :intergalactic:

Erm...ya, but I still like my bow better

I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming

[censored] NO!!!!!!!!!

That would ruin TES so much for me, the world would be ruined, it would cease to be one of the best games of all time and become a Fable knock off!

also to Gandler

In the TES universe it has always been about magic over technology, he Dwemer are an exception obviously, but in a world where most research and time goes into Magic there would be very little technological development, so it is also quite plausible that guns would never be created in the TES world.