Greetings!

I am sure that perks like Commando and Gunslinger will make a return in Fallout 4, for those who don't remember what these perks are doing - they increase two-handed and one handed weapons accuracy in VATS.

But what if a player will not use VATS it all? Do you think they are aware of such people and will these perks have effect while outside of VATS? Like reducing weapons spread while hip firing or while using iron-sights ?

I think they should reduce spread outside of vat too, you have weapon spread and you have spread because of low skill. Note that here I'm not mostly talking about shotgun spread who is an weapon feature but the inaccuracy build in the weapon and how well you handle it.

Negative spread would imply aim assist.

I磎 on the fence since we don磘 really know the exact consequences now when skills might be gone and things like VATS accuracy seams to be govern only by your Perception stat, for all we know real time aiming has no sway or inaccuracy beyond what you can expect out of a fps and there is no real "need" for such perks to affect real time combat, heck these changes might even mean there wont be such perks anymore.

I'm 99% sure Gunslinger and Commando are going to deal with weapon handling and damage outside VATS.

Yes, we don't now for certain these perks are in, but i found two different decoded perks charts, take a look :

http://i.imgur.com/WhNwl5C.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tJjZKM4.jpg

In Agility row, look at 1st and 2nd perks, these images are from Gunslinger and Commando.

Of course these perks might have entirely different effects now, but this is another story.

nice observation, well then I still think tho if they do work like the old games and boost accuracy it will most likely be VATS, as I still predict real time FPS will be more, well fps (heck Beth has apparently approached both ID software and Bungie to receive advice on how to make Fallout 4 combat more face paced, smooth and "fun")

Yes, i too think FPS part will be much more enjoyable, my worry is that these perks might be useless for people like myself, who are not using VATS at all.

well that磗 the good thing with a (hopefully) nicely balanced perk list, just pick another perk when the opportunity comes up.