Picture the scene, you've entered a raider infested building, but you are very confident of your sneaking skills. You see a turret on an upper floor, and an idea enters your head....you have the turret override program disk found at some earlier point, so you slowly make your way up to it, deftly avoiding mines, traps and more raiders in hopes that there's a terminal for it. BINGO, you see it, confirmed by the wire between them. YESSSS.....I can finally put this holodisk to good use.

Unfortunately, naturally, there's a raider or two near it. But you are sure you can approach and tap the keys quietly enough to use it. Slowly...slowly...*Floor creaks* Yikes, it's an old building though, think I got away with that, plenty of noises like that in here.

"Use Terminal"...phew, got it. *TAP*

"Wha-----" you hear from the raider just as the terminal screen pops up. Oh crap, did she see me, AND DID I JUST STAND UP?! Nevermind, let's hack this quickly.

Okay, done *Exit*

"WHO'S THERE?"

"OH HELL YEAH!!!!"

"THERE YOU ARE BOOGEYMAN!!!"

.....they say as the terminal instructed my character to fully stand up for some reason right in front of them. So in my infinite wisdom, in raider infested buildings, I think it's a good idea to stand up before and after using terminals ruining my perfect stealth run? Wonderful.

I have to say I really don't like the way you now access terminals, with the animation of the character moving towards it, and what can result from that.

Well, let's be fair. The keyboards in Fallout are obviously going to be using very old school mechanical switches. Those are LOUD. And if you are 'Hollywood' hacking, you are going to be typing quite quickly and vigorously.

I think his issue is more about it forcing us to stand up. Which is an issue.

lol.. that was funny.

I agree. No, Idea why the character leaves sneaking mode. It has to be a bug...

or we'll call it a bug and hope they fix it

Makes sense cause the computer makes noise and you tap keys loudly and you would think they would hear that, I'm glad it freezes time.

I don't know about that. By that logic why doesn't the lockpicking clicky clacky do the same thing? It makes sound too, and doesn't force you to stand which is what is really giving the game away. And the lockpicking screen just appears, no player animation, which is what I'd prefer the terminals to do as well.

yes but it does not make a loud beep when you pick a lock and you do not need to stand up to pick most locks while most terminals are at standing level.

Theyre really not

My character literally stands up and then swoops down to the terminal screen

^This. I'm really hoping automatically leaving sneak to hack a terminal is not "working as intended."

I agree with the OP. I avoid terminals when in stealth, unless I have no choice. Easier to deal with the turrets then risk being seen typing on a keyboard.

Is it reasonable (as far as "reality" can be stretched in a game like this) to think you could stealthily hack a terminal while enemies are that nearby? Might I suggest killing the 2 Raiders milling about the terminal before hacking it?

The entire point is to have an alternate way to kill the raiders without being seen. That doesn't fix the issue at all.

I'd kill the raiders, hack the terminal and then just have 2 turrets to deal with anyway...

Well you could in the others. Also, I derive more enjoyment from finding alternate ways of dispatching enemies wherever there's a chance, rather than going in all guns blazing. There'd be no point in hacking it if they're already dead.

It's worse than just making you stand after using (perhaps WHILE using) terminals.... they animate you ~sitting~ if there is a chair, it seems. Several times there has been a chair at a desk and my character will animate sliding around the chair if it is tilted so that she can get to the "open" part of the chair and then she lowers and the terminal comes into view.

And a few times, I just froze while ~trying~ to get to the terminal but apparently there was no way to get there from where I was crouching. Since I was in mid-hack-animation and yet unable to ~enter~ the hacking mini-game, I was basically locked in place and had to reload an earlier game. It seems like I tried to use TCL and it did not work (I had to use TCL a few times when I tried to enter Power Armor that was in the Power Armor charging station thing, and I was in FRONT of it ---- tried to animate me walking through the PA suit to get into the back, but of course could not pass through it until I activated TCL to get "through" it to the back).

You could have always headshotted the two raiders with a Suppressed 10mm pistol first before using the terminal. That's what I do.

We've already addressed that. Not to sound condescending but read the whole thread. He wanted an alternate way to deal with the two raiders, now there is no point in hacking the terminal except for XP gain.

I did read the whole thread but, not to sound too condescending, expecting to be able to hack a computer, while crouched with, two enemies nearby, is a little ridiculous. using a computer is not a Stealthy activity.

If those are the only two raiders in the whole area then hacking the terminal is pretty pointless if you can stealthily dispatch them with a suppressed weapon. If it is a larger area with more raiders then the turrets will still take care of the rest.

Alternatively either wait and see if they have a patrol pattern that leads them away from the terminal or see if you can create a distraction that achieves this.

I cant say I have ever seen this as an issue

So you can't crouch using a terminal, but you remain crouched (and hidden) while lockpicking? Righto.

Computers are hard. Gotta take your full attention to make sense of it. Lockpicking? Anyone with a bobbypin and a screwdriver can do that.

*Sigh*

Difficulty isn't the issue.

It is when you're a super-senior citizen. Turns out, some stereotypes have rings of truth

Computer - On desk - big green screen lights up - disks whir- lots of beeps a chirps (like R2D2 with hiccups) - noisy keys - takes a little while to eliminate duds and evaluate the options

Safe - In the floor or at knee/groin height so you have to crouch anyway to be at the right height - relatively quiet (compared to terminals) - extremely easy and quick to pick even without max lockpick skills

OK I have an easy fix, have it make you stand when you pick locks as well.....does that work

Now get orf my lawn!

Oh I see, I suppose I shouldn't complain then

Ahem, locked doors? Lock probably higher than a terminal on a desk You must be better than I am at lockpicking though, but at least pins are easy to come by.

Alright alright, sorry about the lawn

I believe you are sitting when hacking and then you need to get up from the chair when you are finished with the hacking.