...And there a thread about Hadvar just turned into a discussion about - barbs.

(Personally, I like Ralof better than Hadvar. He's just so cute.)

I was clicking onto this topic, and saw the post above, which the last user was Gstaff. Thinking Gstaff was the last user to write on THIS post, I was like, "Oh crap! I'm getting banned, I'm SO getting banned. Maybe I should flee to Mexico! No, they have internet there, right?"

You get to sit with him and his uncle while having some tasty cabbages.

At least Hadvar frees your hands.

Ralof tells you to jump into a burning building with them still tied!

Because Ralof is hardcoe.

Btw, I love your avatar picture.

Ralof wouldn't really do that. There is a reason why he doesn't cut them in the tower.
If you want to call Ralod an idiot for that then Havdar is an idiot too. He doesn't cut them after you get out of the building. they both cut the binds in Helgen keep for a reason.

I like Hadvar as a character. Ashame he one day just disappears.

Ralof is a coward and leaves his comrades behind, not the guy I want to follow and I certainly wouldn't call him "hardcoe" more like a freaking wimp. Hadvar is a more likable character due to the fact he doesn't tell you to jump out of a falling tower into a building that is clearly falling apart and on fire and then doesn't do the same leap of faith.

Like any True Nord.

Ralof also has a nice family that actually lets you use their house for the rest of the game and doesn't lock the door when you look the other way.

Hadvar runs too. Nobody is a coward for running from a Dragon. I hate the empire but I don't call the imperial legion cowards for running from a dragon.

Fixed that for you

Also wouldn't really say that is a nice family, to let a stranger use your house and not care if you take things, kinda sounds more like a stupid family to me.


I call him a coward for not doing the same leap of faith he forced us to do, instead he looks for an alternative AFTER we jump from the tower.

Sigrid and Alvor are dead in my game. Reasons why will not be disclosed.

Ralof abandons us, either out of cowardice or a sick joke, Hadvar sticks with us the entire time after we meet him. I trust Hadvar more then I trust that s'wit Ralof who not only abandons us but Ulfric as well.

What I want to know is why they both waited until AFTER we get into Helgen together to cut the bindings. Were they afraid we'd try to strangle them or something?

Ralof probably decided not to do it so he can laugh at us trying to struggle, Hadvar had more pressing things to do, like save a child and help you towards the keep.

Well, that's how friendship works in Skyrim. If a complete stranger brings you a mammoth tusk or beats you in a bar brawl, then you will let that stranger use your house, your bed, eat your food, take your trinkets and even marry you. Considering that, letting a complete stranger use your home after saving the life of your brother seems like a fairly sensible decision.

Sigrid is such a b**** anyway, at least towards female characters. (Her "don't hit on my husband" greeting would have been much more fun if Alvor actually DID try to hit on female characters - and then Sigrid wouldn't look like an overly jealous woman, either.)

Probably. At least Hadvar. I mean, you're the prisoner, he's a soldier, he should expect that you would try to kill him to break free. That's why he's so nice. He sees what a BA the player character is and just wants to make sure to get on his/her good side before taking any chances.

What a load of [censored]

Or as I pointed out he simply didn't have enough time to or wasn't on his mind, he was saving a child and leading us to safety after all.


I don't know, nords have a sick sense of humor.

@michaelpk - I just noticed your avatar says Wimperials.

yep.

I mean, from our point of view during the whole Helgen scene, Hadvar proves to be more trust worthy then Ralof who abandons us and his own comrades, hell the stormcloaks even get their own bindings off in the tower yet do they do that for us? Nope, we can at least state that Hadvar didn't think it was a good time until they were safe but literally we get a moment of safety during the tower scene.

It also makes you wonder what the stormcloaks were thinking when they decided to go UP a tower during a dragon attack...that's some pretty good example of stupidity.

Ralof does the same thing. You're both isolated from other faction members and they both cut off your bindings.

A satisfying thing about following Ralof? You get the kill the execution guard who ordered you the player, who was not the list, to have your head chopped off.

You know what? You're right. He's busy leading us to safety. The prisoner he wants so much that he's ready to help what very well could be a rebel, or an undercover agent for Ulfric, or a simple criminal, something that might very well lead to him being punished later by his commanding officer. But, as stated in the OP: HE WANTS US!!! "Look in these chests, I'm sure there's some armor you could use" (so I can watch you undress )

(Btw. There are two other men present who also wants us so much. Anyone but me finds it funny that during Tullius little "HA HA we caught you!" speech to Ulfric, both of them are staring the PC down? )

"Oh... yeah, guess we COULD have used the stairs."

Ralof has the perfect opportunity to do it in the tower is my point.