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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:09 am

Right, so after reading the recent update on gameinformer, the one talking about Dragonshouts and how Bethesda created the language for Skyrim, it got me thinking.

Just gonna go out on a limb here.

Do you reckon the player-character could become Emperor of Tamriel?
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Trevor Bostwick
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:39 am

that would be kinda cool.
kinda a like fable 3 sort of thing
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:11 am

From a lore standpoint, yeah, absolutely. Granted i don't know much about TES lore, but from what I understand only a dragonborn can light the dragonfires and become emperor, so yeah, in theory you could do that. I doubt the game will let you, but the lore allows it.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:48 am

Yarr, kinda what I was thinking.

The idea came to me when it was mentioned that Tiber Septim was the first to ascend the 7000 steps and with Uriel Septim VII dead, just thought it was fitting.

Although not sure how it'd fit into lore.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:34 am

would be interesting but saying it takes place in skyrim doubtful unless it has a fallout style ending
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Monika Krzyzak
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:33 am

Lol, it would just be cool becoming king of Skyrim at the end of the game, which might be possible considering there is a civil war going on, but this is just SPECULATION on my part. It's kind of far-fetched, but not too impossible.
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Post » Mon May 16, 2011 11:08 pm

Oh of course... but it is fun to dream... :happy:
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Post » Mon May 16, 2011 11:04 pm

Unfortunately, I also see that as a possibility.

Would make for some peculiar results once the main quest is done...the new Emperor is running around, rescuing lost family members and retrieving family heirlooms from dungeons on behalf of the citizens instead of tending to the governing of the Empire.

Sincerely hope this isn't what they're going for, but I fear they might. Being head of all guilds without actually doing anything was annoying enough in Oblivion, becoming the Emperor would make the post-MQ experience bizarre, to say the least.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:23 am

The problem with the player becoming the emperor is that the new emperor could be one of ten races and either male or female and I don't think Bethesda would just pick a race and gender to make a canon emperor. And that assumes that the Empire will endure or be remade. I'd prefer to let Skyrim stand on her own. On the other hand, from what little we know, it almost looks like we're being set up to be the new emperor, but I rather hope not. And I'd rather not have a Warp in the North where somehow twenty different people (10 races x 2 genders) are the leader of a new empire. On the other other hand (heh), I don't want to play second fiddle to the "hero" (Martin in Oblivion), so I'm kind of conflicted. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the story brings.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:31 am

Your bloodline will probably become emperor or something in the timeline.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:09 am

Not sure about emperor as it is more likely to be the king of Skyrim if becoming royalty is possible.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:43 am

Emporer of Tamriel...doubtful

Emporer of Skyrim...probable :)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:16 am

From a lore standpoint, yeah, absolutely. Granted i don't know much about TES lore, but from what I understand only a dragonborn can light the dragonfires and become emperor, so yeah, in theory you could do that. I doubt the game will let you, but the lore allows it.

After the events of Oblivion the dragonfires are no longer necessary. Martin eternally "lit" them so to speak. And as for the lore allowing it, it actually contradicts it. Because Bethesda isn't going to pull a "This is the cannon way it happened in the lore...." See the below quote.


The problem with the player becoming the emperor is that the new emperor could be one of ten races and either male or female and I don't think Bethesda would just pick a race and gender to make a canon emperor. And that assumes that the Empire will endure or be remade. I'd prefer to let Skyrim stand on her own. On the other hand, from what little we know, it almost looks like we're being set up to be the new emperor, but I rather hope not. And I'd rather not have a Warp in the North where somehow twenty different people (10 races x 2 genders) are the leader of a new empire. On the other other hand (heh), I don't want to play second fiddle to the "hero" (Martin in Oblivion), so I'm kind of conflicted. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the story brings.

Exactly this. I really doubt we will become the emperor because of the reasons Othniel has listed. I also doubt our "bloodline" will become emperor for the same reason. They would still have to "force" a cannon race on the player. We'll just have to wait for more information :shrug:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:52 am

Emporer of Tamriel...doubtful

Emporer of Skyrim...probable :)


Same here. Tamriel is a bit of a stretch but Skyrim could be entirely possible.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:34 am

Oh dear... thinking about it. If you were, you wouldn't really be able to leave your house. It'd be The Adoring Fan times the population of Skyrim. :facepalm:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:26 pm

I really doubt we will become the emperor because of the reasons Othniel has listed. I also doubt our "bloodline" will become emperor for the same reason. They would still have to "force" a cannon race on the player. We'll just have to wait for more information :shrug:


If they managed to pull of a "warp in the west", a player-emperor would be a piece of cake. It would be enough to avoid commenting on the emperors race in future lore, having the emperor play a role that's secluded enough to allow reasonable doubt about his/her identity etc. Sure, it's silly, but so was the warp in the west.

However, I sincerely hope it won't be possible.
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Post » Mon May 16, 2011 10:53 pm

If they managed to pull of a "warp in the west", a player-emperor would be a piece of cake. It would be enough to avoid commenting on the emperors race in future lore, having the emperor play a role that's secluded enough to allow reasonable doubt about his/her identity etc. Sure, it's silly, but so was the warp in the west.

However, I sincerely hope it won't be possible.

That is one of the reasons I don't want it to happen. As I pointed out by saying "exactly this" to Othniel's post. I never want to see another warp in the west. Ever. Even though I would hate it extremely, just deciding a "cannon" way would be better than having every way happen at the same time. In my opinion anyway.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:17 pm

The problem with the player becoming the emperor is that the new emperor could be one of ten races and either male or female and I don't think Bethesda would just pick a race and gender to make a canon emperor. And that assumes that the Empire will endure or be remade. I'd prefer to let Skyrim stand on her own. On the other hand, from what little we know, it almost looks like we're being set up to be the new emperor, but I rather hope not. And I'd rather not have a Warp in the North where somehow twenty different people (10 races x 2 genders) are the leader of a new empire. On the other other hand (heh), I don't want to play second fiddle to the "hero" (Martin in Oblivion), so I'm kind of conflicted. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the story brings.

I think it'd be far more interesting if the Empire simply died, if the nations broke off and became independant. There's a lot more potential for drama and conflict like that, and that's good groundwork for future stories.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:22 am

I think it would be interesting, though admittedly cliché, if the Empire transformed into a Republic.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:13 am

........I'm not the only one who saw this and immediately thought Duke Nukem am I?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:33 am

It has been confirmed that Chuck Norris will be emporer.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:45 am

Yeah. Lore-wise the PC has the right to rule the world as far as I know. The last dragonborn blood around is Septim .. which gives the PC right to rule via bloodline. I'm pretty sure lighting the dragonfires just makes someone emperor.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:34 am

Your bloodline will probably become emperor or something in the timeline.

This is a pretty safe bet.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:44 am

We need to become one to preserve the Dragonblood in the world. Either that or it's baby-making time. Not sure which one I'd prefer. :hubbahubba:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:37 am

From a lore standpoint, yeah, absolutely. Granted i don't know much about TES lore, but from what I understand only a dragonborn can light the dragonfires and become emperor, so yeah, in theory you could do that. I doubt the game will let you, but the lore allows it.


I'd say the Dragonfires became irrelevant when Martin sacrificed himself and the Amulet of Kings to summon a deus ex machina. Since the Dragonfires could only be lit with the Amulet of Kings, that's why you had to go through so much trouble to get it back when the Mythic Dawn took it from Weynon Priory (Which wouldn't have happened if Jauffre hadn't wanted to keep the Amulet with him, nice job breaking it Jauffre. But I guess he can't be blamed for not wanting to leave such an important item in the hands of a prisoner who might not even survive the trip to Kvatch.) If the Amulet wasn't needed to light the Dragonfires, you could have just gone on to the Imperial City after saving Martin and the whole crisis could end there. Still, that doesn't mean the player can't be the Emperor, it just means that if a new emperor rises, it probably doesn't have to be a Dragonborn.

Still, I highly doubt the player will become the Emperor, while technically, it could work from the lore standpoint, it could cause a problem with the fact that players are free to create their own characters. Letting the player become the Emperor would mean that the player character must be given an identity, even if only in potential sequels, and that's something Bethesda has always tried to avoid. Besides, from a narrative standpoint, it would seem rather awkward as the Empire only just collapsed, okay, in terms of in-game timelines, the events that lead to its collapse actually started too hundred years ago, but in real life, we only just saw the death of the Septim line in the last game. Usually when you do things like that, you don't have the Empire rise again to its former glory in the next game, you do something with it. Either you use it to explore the effects of lacking a unified government on Tamriel, or you have a new power rise in it's place, and I think the latter possibility deserves a story dedicated to it, in Skyrim, the story is about fighting dragons and stopping Alduin from eating the world, I think having the player become Emperor in it would come of as saying "Thank you for stopping the big bad evil guy from destroying the world and bringing peace to Skyrim, and by the way, you're our new Emperor now." Finally, would you want your continent wide Empire to be ruled by someone who is constantly neglecting his duties to go out and loot dungeons and kill rats for the Fighter's Guild?
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