Vampirism was stricken upon the mortal plane by a Daedra Lord (Molag Bal), therefore I do not (in my opinion) classify it as some type of viral disease as the many plagues in TES history were.

As for Khajiit I do not know. The moon-birth cycle has always been a weird aspect (though I do understand it). I've also never thought Khajiit would breed with other races. Isn't it mostly in their culture to not breed with men or mer?

In my opinion beast races wouldn't procreate with races outside of their own. I couldn't see an Argonian procreating with a human :rofl: ... although, it is possible I guess...

Actually this may not be possible at all. I doubt the reproductive organ systems of beast races go with that of humans...

Oh they do. Banging is definitely possible. Just ask Barenziah.

Yes I know the actual sperm could be produced, but could it possibly enter an Argonian system or vice-versa and be compatible with the organs?

Argonians I'm not sure, actually. Whether or not reproduction is possible between Khajiit and other races, six is, but with Argonians I have absolutely no idea. Quick, to the Imperial Library!

Due to the fact that argonians are not mammals, I don't think they could reproduce with a khajiit, mer or human.

I agree. They have two different types of vampires in the game. The ferals infect you with a disease, and the ancients offer you the Dark Gift. Janus Hassildor and Vincente are both ancients, Hindaril and all the other vampires you meet in Oblivion are feral.

The problem with Lovidicus is he fits into both categories. He was a vampire over 200 years, and lived and loved, mated - all without attacking (although everytime she upset his apple cart he was ready to kill her, so he was even iffy then) - but when the player meets him he attacks on sight. (starving, so he says - which of course conflicts with the Rona Hassildor story and the Player's vampirism, but that is for another discussion. )

That was where I couldn't see breeding as being a legitimate way to become a vampire. How could Agronak be half vampire if his mother didn't contract vampirism from sleeping with the father? And if she did, he would be a whole vampire, not half. (actually, I don't believe there is such a thing as a half a vampire; I think you either are or aren't - sort of like being pregnant or something).

Of course, all these are just my opinions, lol.





Wait, didn't Morrowind have a Khajiit prosttute that would do it with even the player no matter their race?

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Ok now I have to relate this to homosixuals...

Can homo sixuals have six? Yes, they can.

Can homo sixuals reproduce? No, they can't.

Correcting:

Can homo sixuals reproduce? Yes, they can, through artificial insemination.

It's strange to see someone of a Beast Race breeding with a men or a mer. Although I think that is possible, but strange.

Ye olde Turkey Baster perhaps? ROFL !!!


@ woolymammoth45 - I see your point! Lol. Good visual example. I may spend all day trying to wipe that out of my head. Still, an Imperial and an Orc made Agronak, so I think it is still a possibility that a Khajiit and an Imperial could mate and create offspring. The child would look like this:


http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/45/l_abf073647af542d2a6b7c87620fa18e8.jpg


The question then is, would the offspring be sterile?

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No.

Orcs are elves. There is evidence Elf and Man reproduction is very possible (Bretons, hello?).

Now, a beast is a different type of thing.


Also on the homosixual comment. Key word there:

Artificial

Also two homo sixual men or women can't reproduce with each other, because there is either no sperm or nothing to put the sperm in.

King Hrol did it with a mound of mud and produced Reman. I don't believe any union is impossible - maybe unlikely - but when you have a surfeit of Gods and Daedric Lords dipping their fingers in and out of a realm, anything can happen.



PS: Can someone post links to the Lore that shows Orcs becoming Elves? I would be interested in reading that.

I always thought there was some chick hiding in that hill.

And Kajjit are Mer as well, so an Orc and Kajiit could definatley [censored].

More like elves becoming Orcs...

This isn't a book, but an article with info from the books:

http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/briansarticle01.shtml

It's also on the history timeline:

http://www.imperial-library.info/history/merethic.shtml

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"Late Middle Merethic Era

The Dwemer (also known as the Dwarves), a free-thinking, reclusive Aldmeri clan devoted to the secrets of science, engineering, and alchemy, established underground cities and communities in the mountain range (later the Velothi Mountains) separating modern Skyrim and Resdayn/Morrowind.
For more information: The Annotated Anuad.

The Late Middle Merethic Era is also the period of the High Velothi Culture. The Chimer (ancestors of the modern Dunmer, or Dark Elves), dynamic, ambitious, long-lived Aldmeri clans devoted to fundamentalist ancestor worship, followed the Prophet Veloth out of ancestral Aldmeri homelands to settle in the lands now known as Morrowind. Despising the secular culture and profane practices of the Dwemer, the Chimer also coveted the lands and resources of the Dwemer, and for centuries provoked them with minor raids and territorial disputes.
For more information: Lives of the Saints, A Short History of Morrowind.

Trinimac (strongest of the Altmeri ancestor spirits) and his people (the Orsimer or the Pariah Folk) try to halt Velothi dissident movement. However, Daedric Prince Boethiah as one of the mastermind of the movement, eats Trinimac. Trinimac's body and spirit are corrupted, and he emerges as Daedric Prince Malacath. The rest of his people are changed as well. They are now known as the Orcs."



The book sources:

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/truenatureoforcs.shtml

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/varietiesoffaith.shtml

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/anticipations.shtml

How are they Mer?


I found some little things for our little mystery...

Article: http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/darthbladearticle3.shtml

Dialogue:

http://www.imperial-library.info/interviews/jobasha.shtml

Another Article: http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/abrasivenutarticle1.shtml

I think that Khajiit are only descendants of Mer, but aren't Mer. But I don't want to raise controversy here.

In my opinion Mer and Man are more likely to have breeds that will work than "Man and Beast" and "Mer and Beast".

- GAAAAHK !!


But Azura created the Khajiit out of Altmeri stock.

But what's a Beast anyway? Except for the Argonians, all the major sentient races of Tamriel appear to be related. Certain weird races like the Imga or the four kingdoms of Akavir are obvious exceptions too, but it's made pretty clear that all the Humans and Elves, and that includes Khajiit and Orcs, descended from the Aedra and their semi divine progeny.


Did someone a few posts up refer to the Khajiit girl in Morrowind as a prosttute? Really? That's just insulting. She asks the PC to do some quests for her, then falls in love with the PC and moves in with him if he's a male. That sounds more like a relationship than a business transaction. If she were a prosttute she'd generally ask for money in exchange for six. At least that's my understanding of the profession. I might be wrong. I don't know anybody who ever killed a mobster and got a prosttute's belt back in exchange for six.

Actually, I phrased that as a question because I didn't know; that is just how I heard it put on a previous thread RE: this same topic on this forum. Sorry if it was wrong info.

Yes, you're right. If we see the point of view of origin, the Khajiit and Orcs are also Mer.

Where the Argonian arise? Now I got this doubt.

They come from the Hist. That's all we know for sure.

Pretty much, that and that the Hist are the only protean race (Atmorans, Aldmer, etc) who were not of the Ehlonfey. Therefore they (and therefore the Argonians) are the only race that could generally be considered a different species altogether.

And as far as I can tell, using in-game books and the novel, the general in-Universe consensus among scholars is that while Khajiit are of merric origin, they are now something at least a little different, but probably no more different from men and mer than men and mer to each other.

Khajiit can definitely have reproduce, considering that they have big spiked [censored manually].

edit: Is there no more autocensor? I'm worried about getting warned.

Um..yeah they can obviously reproduce with each other. That's blatantly obvious since there's an entire race of them. But can they have babies with elves or humans? It hasn't been verified.

And yes I KNOW one had six with Barenziah. But that doesn't mean anything. A person can have six with a horse. Having six and reproducing are two different acts. The ability to actually give birth to a human/khajiit hybrid has yet to be verified.

If an Orc and a Human can produce a child then I don't see why a Khajit and a Human can't. But that's just me :/

Orcs are mer, not beast