I don't know about anyone else, but I think it would be cool to have Hand to hand weapons, kind of like gloves with studs on them, or spikes, like the fur gauntlets in Oblivion have the animal claws on them (I know they did not add any extra damage, but I think it would be cool if they did in Skyrim). I think it would be cool to have the claws and or spikes deal extra damage along with your normal hand to hand damage. Discuss and post your opinions!

Kicks, sweeps, tackles, and some good old ground and pound would make for a lot of fun.

Seeing that they implemented such a system in FO3, it's entirely feasible.

Enchanted knuckle dusters FTW! :celebration:

I concur.

I would loveeee to see some kicks and tackles in Hand to hand combat, i can imagine it now! You do a forward power attack and tackle the enemy to the ground and then pound is face in with some Elven style brass knuckles haha

Hand to Hand needs to be a serious viable choice of weapon, with devastating results to the opponents fatigue, provided the character is built around it.

techniques and special moves > New unarmed weapons

but weapons like wristblades are cool too though

I'd love for more dynamic unarmed combat. If any of you have seen the dungeon escape trailer for The Witcher 2, when Geralt fights the two guards in the cell, that sort of combat is just sweet. I'd love for a similar style of hand to hand in TES V.

I think metal gauntlets would do plenty of damage, a lot more than fur with claws or any gloves with studs.

However, ever since Morrowind I've wanted to see like a bar fighter thing where you compete in taverns around different towns in a cage match style hand to hand fight. If you win by knocking out your opponent (not killing), you get money. I wouldn't consider it a guild, but still a faction like the Arena. I think it would be neat to walk into a bar filled with drunken Nords and see two of em in cage together beating the crap out of each other with their bare fists.

I agree to a point but I have trouble seeing how hand to hand is going to be realisticly useful against anything other than humans.

What is everyones obbsession with assassians creed? It was a crappy game with a crappy psuedo intellectual story board, the only good thing about it was the way you moved.

Wristblades are idiotic and impractical.

Assassins Creed has not a single thing to do with why I would like to see Hand to Hand weapons in Skyrim. I just think it would make Hand to Hand combat more useful and enjoyable. I would love to be able to find unarmed weapons like spiked gloves or be able to enchant your gauntlets to help deal extra damage. I mean if no new unarmed weapons then at least make Gauntlets add hand to hand damage, or be able to enchant them so they can activate when you punch someone. How cool would it be to have fire enchanted gauntlets and be able to punch someone and deal extra fire damage.

Fur Glove has claws? I thought they were just fingerless gloves?
Anywho, yes I want hand to hand weapons.
Destris... shut up.

Look at a pair of Fur Gauntlets, they have the bear or wolf claws on them.

If you put them on and ready your fists, there are little claws on the top of the gauntlets, and a thumb claw on the sides of the gauntlets.

Not really. In real life, fighting unarmed is often very practical against an animal. Granted you may be more exposed that you might be if you had a club/bat to extend your swing radius, but fighting without a weapon gives you more freedom of movement and allows you to use your hands not only as weapons, but to manipulate and restrict your opponent's movement (and therefore their ability to fight back). A normal sized human can generally fend off one or maybe even two advlt wolves without using a weapon. A strong/agile/well-trained fighter could probably deal with even bigger and stronger enemies...

Fighting hand to hand against a human opponent is definitely different than fighting against an animal, but that's because there is an entirely different strategy to it, as your opponent will also be trying to use his hands and body to manipulate you in the same way you will be doing to him, so it's more about predicting the next move and waiting for a good opening, whereas fighting an animal, you're generally just trying to take their claws/teeth out of the equation while landing blows to sensitive areas as quickly as possible.

You said wrist blades. For some reason everyone here thinks that Skyrim should be a fusion of DM and AC. Seriously.

Also I forsee this turning into a "Hand to hand is more effective than fighting with a weapon!"

Yes, some people can be very deadly with hand to hand, but take two people who have the same natural skills, size and training, but one devoted their training to hand to hand the other to a weapon. The guy with the weapon wins 9.99/10

...when did i mention Wrist Blades in any of my posts, Im pretty sure i said spikes studs or brass knuckles, all of which are not in AC...so please just stop posting in my thread if you are going to ramble on with your WRONG information. Thank you.

For some reason you think you know what everyone else thinks better than they do... Assassin's Creed didn't invent wrist blades. He explained his reasoning and you responded by ignoring his explanation. :banghead:

I think more modifications to H2H would be cool; it would add some flare to a relatively mundane form of combat. And for all I care that could definitely include wrist blades. Also I disagree with your assertion that the fighter with the weapon wins 999 times out of 1000. I think a master of hand to hand combat is possibly the most deadly fighter on the planet. I don't pretend to be an expert of swordplay or of hand to hand combat, but I'd be very surprised if the results were that skewed.

I agree, a master at Hand to Hand combat could easily hit someones pressure point or break a vital bone or damage a vital organ with one perfectly placed punch or kick and easily kill or knock out an opponent that is wielding a weapon.

I think gauntlets should effect H2H damage and effects.

Maybe I didn't make my reply clear, when I said 'you said wrist blades' I meant that as a reason as to why I jumped into thinking assassians creed, then I explained why I didn't like a certain line of thinking on the forums, I apologise for being unclear. Sorry about that broseph, wanna brofist bro?

See the problem with your thinking is your comparing two people in your head, one is like Bruce Lee, the other is Un-named swordsman number 12. What you need to imagine is someone who speands his entire life practicing hand to hand, to someone who speands there entire life practicing swordplay. The man who practices sword play has a huge huge HUGE advantage, with enough skill it wouldnt be that hard for an expert swordsman to bring an expert martial artist into a position where he has absolutely no way to defend himself.

Why not use one of the many other Hand to Hand threads? A third of these threads are repeats.

Actually I wasn't imaging that scenario at all, oddly enough. I was in fact imagining my idea of a person who has spent decades honing his hand-eye coordination, agility, stamina, and general hand-to-hand combat, facing a swordfighter with an equally impressive resume. I am still quite sure that your estimate is way off. Again I do not claim to know a whole lot about masters of swordplay or hand-to-hand fighting, but then again I can't imagine you know much more than I do.

What if when you sneak attack with H2H you break the guys neck. A real roundhouse kick to the chest chuck Norris style and head butts would be cool. You could expand hand to hand to schools like you do with magic!!!!!