Hand-To-Hand; Will it be useful? : V - Skyrim

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:53 pm

All my saiyan characters would be very upset if hand to hand was taken out. Though, it could deffinitly use an overhall. Add some different styles maybe, or at least give it enough special moves as perks so you could make something close to your own style.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:07 am

I sure it will be since theyre useing perks now. jus look at the perks they had in FO3/NV

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:48 pm

i bet money its not in the 18skills

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:34 am

I suppose they could fuse it with blunt weapons and then only have three weapon types: ranged, blade and blunt. Then they could use stats such as strength and endurance to determine your effectiveness with light and heavy weapons etc.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:40 pm

Against Dragons? Doubt it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:40 am

i bet money its not in the 18skills

If it isn't than it's probably something you can specialize in via perks. I think it is it's own skill though.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:12 am

I made an Argonian monk that uses a bow and hand to hand, and really it was fun, hand-to-hand could use some work, but it should be weaker than using a weapon, and it should not be removed from the game.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:52 am

I made an Argonian monk that uses a bow and hand to hand, and really it was fun, hand-to-hand could use some work, but it should be weaker than using a weapon, and it should not be removed from the game.

agreed. hopefully therell be perks lik paralzing palm and maybe that works lik pushy from FONV

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:59 pm

IMO hand to hand should be used -

For bar-fights and such, or against any enemy you're trying to subdue rather than kill. Since Skyrim will be very Nordic, I'd assume they're doing something with bar-fights.
In unison with weapons - being able to use technique for kicks/trips to knock people off balance/cripple them
For deadly sneak attacks vs. many enemies, such as neck snaps.
Possibly, perhaps along with acrobatics, playing some part in dodging.

That way it wouldn't be trivial to 90+% of players because it gains versatility instead of just being another weapon skill with bad damage compared to other weapons.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:42 pm

well in oblivion it was usless.and sence there is 18 skills in skyrim instead of 20 in oblivion, it is very possible that hand to hand could be completely taken out as far as the skill itself goes

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:10 pm

I suppose they could fuse it with blunt weapons and then only have three weapon types: ranged, blade and blunt. Then they could use stats such as strength and endurance to determine your effectiveness with light and heavy weapons etc.

Its basiclly confirmed there won't be skills like blade,blunt,etc Its 1 or 2 handed with perks to specialize.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:32 pm

look at pg.55 of the game informer. we have 8 confirmed skills.alchemy,destruction,illusion,enchanting(replace mysticism i suppose),alteration,restoration,conjuration and smithing.so that leaves only 10 other skills.probally at least 2 weapon related skills like (one handed,two handed whatever),sneak skill so about 6-7 other unknown skills.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:26 am

I think it'll have much more utility this time around. One who specializes in hand to hand should be able to grapple and throw the opponent to the ground, disarm the opponent, etc.

Killing someone with a punch when they're wearing steel plate armor wouldn't make much sense IMHO.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:13 pm

Would anyone seriously want hand-to-hand over polearms/spears?

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:27 pm

Against Dragons? Doubt it.

Gohan vs Dragon
Gohan will win ever time. <_< Even without energy attacks. Just throwing that out there. Infact, Gohan was so good he trained a dragon. Got it to do tricks, and even dance.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:04 pm

I was just thinking to myself: "Hand to Hand in Oblivion was utterly useless, people did create mods for it though, but that made it overpowered"

So, Will Hand-To-Hand be better than TES4 or stay the same?

I rather like H2H combat. And for me it wasn't that bad in Oblivion, Sure you needed a lot of practice to be powerful enough to beat some serious opponnent with it. After a certain level you could bring down your foe and from this point it was just a matter of time till you beat him/her finally.

What I would like to see is some more moves, e.g punches to the head and to torso (or maybe below the belt?!?).

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:59 pm

Would anyone seriously want hand-to-hand over polearms/spears?

polearms/spears fits into two-handed =)

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:35 pm

Gohan vs Dragon
Gohan will win ever time. <_< Even without energy attacks. Just throwing that out there. Infact, Gohan was so good he trained a dragon. Got it to do tricks, and even dance.

I think you are a little confused here, there are no Z fighters on Nirn.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:49 pm

They announced you can duel people... and it shouldn't have to be to the death so hand to hand is gonna be fun.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:41 pm

Would anyone seriously want hand-to-hand over polearms/spears?

They wouldn't, unless they're tards. Weapon skills in Skyrim are 1-handed and 2-handed according to game informer. Polearms would hopefully be under 2 handed if they are in.

As far as hand-to-hand/Unarmed go, they could have like bladed gauntlets, Knuckle dusters, or even better, CLAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Duel wielding claws would make me feel like some kind of beast. Of course were-wolves you could really be a beast....

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:33 pm

It's not suppose to be useful, it's a last resort.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:29 am

I think you are a little confused here, there are no Z fighters on Nirn.

Except for my character who I pretend is super saiyan.
In Morrowind I flew around with levitate and slashed people down.
In Oblivion I ran at super sonic speed while 1-shotting people.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:03 am

Except for my character who I pretend is super saiyan.
In Morrowind I flew around with levitate and slashed people down.
In Oblivion I ran at super sonic speed while 1-shotting people.

Well that′s all fine and dandy

but you can′t expect anything that wouldn′t fit within the theme of the TES universe. Don′t worry about not being able to throw punches though, you most likely will be able to do that.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:53 am

Except for my character who I pretend is super saiyan.
In Morrowind I flew around with levitate and slashed people down.
In Oblivion I ran at super sonic speed while 1-shotting people.

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What race do you use...?

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:04 pm

Hand-to-hand was useless in Morrowind

Really? In my experience hand-to-hand in Morrowind was redicilously effective against single or double opponents. The skill improved extremely quickly, and the trick was simply to survive until the enemy fatigue got so low their chance-to-hit was reduced to nothing. And once they were down, they would never even get to attempt to hit you again. At high levels of unarmed skill, with the attack speed of punches, there was hardly a way to lose :huh: