Only got around to reading this now

http://videogamewriters.com/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-perk-trees-and-racial-abilities-revealed-24975


But it seems like Altmer gets a magic-related bonus as they have had in previous games; and as a bonus they no logner have their elemantal weaknesses, but the bretons have, well, nothing. They are pretty bland, and rather than a magica bonus and partial magic immunity they just get a modified greater power, and some random shock resistance. Why? I dont think the bretons were very overpowered, they matched up quite well with the altmer, now they just seem to be "generic human race #3" and really have no abilities that give them a signfiicant edge in the art of magic.

Is this list final, or is that false info, or is this really a deisgn choice? Does anybody really want only one mage-oriented race, wheres the vairety in that? Now theres pretty much no reason to play them unless you just like being a short white person (exciting!)

Complete opposite actually. Breton's my favorite race and they look poised to be the same in Skyrim.

Well, for one. If we, PC gamers dont like anything we can change it. The other 66% of consoles will just have to deal with it. Im getting sick of these rants. Sorry for flaming. :homestar:

Whats your rational for this? did you read the article?

I'm mainly making this post to make sure that that isnt just misinformation. If you like the way they look, or like their lroe thats fine and dandy, but Im trying to understand the rational of getting rid of those magic-related bonuses.



This will probably be the outcome, and I'll likely do it myself. But "mod it out" is not really a legimate solution to every problem. It sohuld be up to the devlopers to make sure everything is as it should be, and well balanced with that said.

Bretons have had the same bonsues, for pretty much every single TES game, and it was never a problem. There was no reason to change it.

+50 magicka and +50 magicka resistance was lul worthy. Strongest race in Oblivion by far.

Shock magic now drains magicka so there is a reason for it to be on them. I agree it is a massive step down though, but consider this: 1) we do not know a full race bonus list 2) we do not know the extent of their magic absorption (power/permanent + extent) 3) look to the other races. Bosmer have some resistances in poison/disease and a worthless command ability... I would honestly like a elemental damage resistance over that

Have fun looking up, creating, and downloading mods PC user while the rest of us console players enjoy the game the way it is...the right way. It's PC users that rarely will be satisfied.

yea the breton's powers this time around svcks, unless their dragonskin power is constant absorb, if so, it still svcks

and talking about racial powers, altmer are missing their weakness (which makes them interesting), and argonians are missing their resist poison

Hah... Highly doubt PC players are 33%...

It'd be super awesome if you could stay on topic and not derail my thread with the fifth post.



Welp, the thread was going well for the first few posts...



I have my hopes held that dragon skin is a constant effect.. as that would still be fairly useful (when it comes down to it, magic immunity and spell absorbtions are basically one in the same

But dragonskin was a greater pwoer in Morrowind and OB

Not all of the racial powers and abilities were listed in the character gen from the hands on demo that info was pulled from. That's been confirmed. Nord's frost resistance wasn't listed, but that's since been confirmed by vsions. That list is missing some info. Feel any better?

And everyone is getting sick of you. Just leave. What is the point of being on the forum if you're just going to change everything to how you want it anyway?

As for the topic. I'm pretty dissappointed too. Bretons are no longer a real magic race; they're just humans who learned about magic when they were younger.

I don't think this represents all of the racial bonuses. The article doesn't even mention what races get bonuses to what skills, so that will change some things. And as someone has said, the shock spells now drain magicka so they don't have that to worry about that.

It doesn't.

Im not quite sure you understood my statement.

How about we don't ruin another thread with a console war.

yes, yes i do feel better :biggrin:

no matter how bad it gets my mage WILL NOT be an altmer. bretons for the win!

Thanks, this was the verfication I was looking for.

Just wanted to make sure that list wasnt finalized :whistling:


*cough* maybe visions can confirm some more stuff for us

This, and who knows dragonskin might be constant effect (probably not).

You can never have enough official NERFED darts!

I've been slowly drifting away from Bretons since Daggerfall and this is a bummer for me.

That sounds bitter. What I can tell you, is that PC gamers will be satisfied. Mods really are awesome, and do not frustrate the player (except if he really doesn't know how to pick them or reading instructions :/) and TES+mod really is several time better than TES. Even the dev acknowledge the work of people who did better than themselves (OOO?).
But it's to early to talk about modding bréton indeed, we absolutely don't know the extent of the bréton power in skyrim compared to other races.

Sick of me? Lol, that's uncalled for. I just said that PC users can fix what the frack they want, whilst PS3 gamers are whining about it. Now, thats, a console war.




I never opened for a Console war. If we look at 3 Consoles. I count the PC as a console now. So, 100/3 = 33% out of 100%. Are we following? Read my post again.

To make it even more clear. I stated PC was 33% of the Consoles capeable of running Skyrim.

Didn't read any of the thread other then the OP I take it.

No, please just stop. I'd like one of my threads to not deteriorate into a flame war for at least three pages.

Good points, OT I believe Bretons will get the appropriate magical resistance as well as Magicka bonus.