Hey, a question just popped into my head, and I had to ask the brains over at the Lore forums. How did Haskill become Sheogorath's Chamberlain? Even after the SI quest like he still serves Sheogorath, not Jyggalag. So he wasn't Jyggalag's Chamberlain? Just wondering if there's any info about it, if you would enlighten me.

I'd say that Haskill is Dyus's enantiomorphic double. Just like Sheogorath is Jyggle's.


He probably came into being the exact moment sheogorath did.

Makes sense. I remember I almost attacked Dyus the first time I saw him.

http://www.imperial-library.info/interviews/si_interview.shtml, he's been Sheogorath's chamberlain since the beginning. More, he is unwilling to say.

More important, perhaps, is to consider why Haskill is the only constant in the Shivering Isles, whereas even Sheogorath and Jyggalag disappear.

The same can be said for Dyus however.

Mabye His sheogorath in Disguise, Eh?

Anything is possible in the prince of madness's Domain...

I always thought that Haskill is someone referred to in a certain book in the Shivering Isles that I forget the name of. Bascially, the story goes with a Wizard that comes into the Shivering Isles. He goes to Sheogorath to ask for magical secrets, and sheogorath challenges him to a contest. He must go 3 days without going getting killed by Sheogorath. The wizard tried to back out, but it was too late. For 3 days the wizard grew paranoid, thinking everything around him was a trick. On the last day, he went to Sheogorath and begged him to tell him what he did, he was going insane from the paranoia. Then, Sheogorath told him that he had done nothing, and it was his own fears that turned him insane. In the end of the story, it said that the wizard greeted newcomers to the Shivering Isles and warned them, that Sheogorath had already won, and is in control.


I always thought this would be haskill, despite the fact at the beginning of the story the adventurer has a different name. But perhaps Sheogorath changed it? Hmm...

Dyus is immortal, Haskill is immortal. They both have their uses. Jyggalag probably imprisons Haskill when he's in control of the Realm, just as Sheogorath imprisons Dyus when he's in control.

Actually, all of the human residents of SI are constant. I can't remember if there's anything about Haskill being "around" for the other cycles of the Isles or not (or even Dyvus for that matter). Who's to say that Haskill isn't just another Sheogorath worshipper, albeit a favored one? My question is: What makes Haskill insane enough to be worthy of living in the Isles? His latent maschism? I guess he does remind me of Delbert Grady from The Shining...

Actually, Haskill can talk at length about previous cycles, and Sheogoraths attempts to hold off the Graymarch. "This is one of his more promising attempts. Did he tell you about the clowns? What a mess!" Or something like that. It's been a while.

If indeed Sheogorath is simply playing a trick on you, the REAL Sheograth could very well be Haskill. Its like that story from the 1001 nights...

Well, if not the REAL one at least a portion that came into being when he did that tricks everyone.

Still, we're still not sure if the shezarrine is THE madgod, just A madgod. We're still not sure if Sheogorath is just sitting there in his Jyggalag costume laughing at how he tricked the shezarrine.

I tried summoning Haskill underwater but he appeared at the surface instead -_-

The problem is, of course, that, if that were true, The Madgod might be subject to a ruse on an even higher level. That sort of mistrust probably makes for a fine Madgod. Whether it is true or not matters little in the end. You're always the Madgod, because you're always bonkers.

and yet again lord seagorath won even in our world by making us crazy with the tought were he could be or that he isnt anymore here but still gain his power by making us think that hes 1 of the people who walks in shivering iles and makes us paranoid by thinking thise is all a set up plan like he could be that guy or that girl or that rock or he does wana make us think that we think that he thinks......aaaaah brain melt

Heh, when considering the suggestion that Haskill was only present for the most recent cycle...

Sheogorath: Send in the next applicant!

(Haskill enters the room.)

Sheogorath: So, tell me. What makes you think you're qualified to be my chamberlain?

Haskill: What are you talking about, my lord? I have ever served you, and simply wish to resume my duties.

Sheogorath: Hey, that's good! I'm not sure which of us is going crazy here... or perhaps, more crazy, in my case. At any rate, YOU'VE GOT THE JOB!

Haskill: Of course, Lord.

Something really painful just happened in my head. I think that should be important. How do they (or at least haskill) survive the Greymarch? Obviously Jyggalag wouldn't kill his own Cahimberlain, so Dyus is a bit more rational, but there must be something important as to why Haskill is around.

Did you notice that you can't kill Haskill? I mean, you can't even strike him? You swing at him, and your weapon passes right through him. That is unique, in TES. You can attack everyone, even the folks with crowns over their heads. You can even attack Sheogorath Himself. But you can't attack Haskill. Why?

Have you ever tried attacking your imaginary friends?

They are constants both, which are important for the greymarch to continue.

Do you know the Ying-Yang? One side is black, one white, but each side has a small dot of the opposite color within it as well. This is much like the Et'Ada. Even the prince of madness has a small bit of order in his being. Haskill, Dyus and the obelisks are all manifestations of this. Without them, a cyclical and orderly cycle like the greymarch would not be able to occur. Not to mention the fact that his realm would be a constantly changing whirlwind if Dyus and Haskill didn't exist.



I did. Pelinal was a tough cookie to crack