I hate to ask : IV

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:43 am

but can I get help with my load order? Ive read through the readmes, and I CTD everytime I load the game up.

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Oblivion.esm
Cobl Main.esm
MathFunctions.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Knights.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
ThemeParkFinal.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
LetThePeopleDrink-fountainonly-Cobl.esp
LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Brighter_Torches.esp
Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
SentientWeapon.esp
MidasSpells.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp
Mart's Monster Mod.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
za_bankmod.esp
Better Cities - Halcyon Island.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities Full.esp

I think its something on my part, from not activating them properly, or placing them wrong.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:05 pm

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp <-- I think you should use BC's instead
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp <-- I guess you are using MMM 3.55 or something, you should http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24646
You can only run one NW (Natural Weather) plugin at a time.

LetThePeopleDrink-fountainonly-Cobl.esp <-- I think you are supposed to use one or the other of these two
LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp

Your load order needs sorting: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder.

There is a http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22226.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:19 am

do I need to delete MMM from the load order before the upgrade?
All I know is that this is alot more of a hassle then F3's mods.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:08 pm

You chose these mods... Anyway, you need to completely uninstall that version of MMM and then install the new version. You can delete the old version of MMM. Once you create the OMOD, installation is easy...

Edit: ...tired...

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:02 pm

the only thing i use natural environments for is the natural vegetation. I use enhanced weather, water and night sky for everything else. I wasn't sure if it was using natural weather AND enhanced weather at the same time or if it was just natural weather. But I would get rain storms and random snow storms all most every 2 minutes. It pissed me off until i found something that worked and looked really good.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:08 pm

the only thing i use natural environments for is the natural vegetation. I use enhanced weather, water and night sky for everything else. I wasn't sure if it was using natural weather AND enhanced weather at the same time or if it was just natural weather. But I would get rain storms and random snow storms all most every 2 minutes. It pissed me off until i found something that worked and looked really good.

You cannot use Enhanced Weather and Natural Weather at the same time.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:37 pm

You cannot use Enhanced Weather and Natural Weather at the same time.

Sure you can! It will just cause rain storms and random snow storms all most every 2 minutes

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:55 pm

Sure you can! It will just cause rain storms and random snow storms all most every 2 minutes

Fine, should definitely not...

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:53 pm

OK so after making the OMOD, removing a few of the mods that were conflicting, and the "copies" I noticed I only had the MMM.esp is that normal or should there be more? Its active BTW.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:00 pm

If you only selected MMM and no options during the install, then yes. Resort your load order too.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:44 am

hmm did'nt get that option. Heres what I got-
Downloaded form the link you provided
unzipped
recieved the ESP file, and the OMOD convergence folder
moved files to C:/oblivion/data
created the OMOD
got no options :/

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:26 pm

hmm did'nt get that option.

Follow the instructions http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=995334.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:04 pm

You should not have unzipped or manually moved anything, just follow the instructions in the Description:

1. Download MMM 37b3 Public Release 3 (The main MMM plugin arhcive) from TESNexus or PES.
2. Download MMM373BSA.7z (the archive containing the 3.7b3 MMM.bsa archive).
3. Download MMM Divese WaterLife Update
4. Download MMM_OMOD_Installer_1_6_1.rar
5. Start OBMM, and click Create
6. In the omod creator window, click Add archive and select MMM_37b3_Public_Release-17784.7z
7. Do the same for the other downloaded archives, answering yes to any question.
Note that OBMM will be unresponsive for a long time when adding MMM373BSA.7z.
8. Click Create omod and let OBMM take its time compressing the OMOD. Answer yes to any question about overwriting duplicate files.
9. Install the MMM OMOD by double-clicking it.
10. Answer the pop-ups.
11. Installation is complete!

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:45 pm

thanks now I do feel stupid, I thought those were optional files -_-

Downloading.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:37 am

Follow the instructions http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=995334.

Those are the same instructions.

@dragoonofdeath: You should just be using "Add archive" (multiple times).

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:51 pm

You cannot use Enhanced Weather and Natural Weather at the same time.

Yeah I figured that out when it started raining and other stuff every couple of minutes. I downloaded the natural environment mod because I liked something I saw but i forget what it was. I did try both of them separately and I ended up liking the enhanced weather and water a lot more. I liked using I think it was enhanced and natural water together because I got a really cool look above water with clear water when I was underwater. But I had to deactivate the natural water because it made the water all most see through like I was looking through a glass of tap water. if i was standing on a hill looking down.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:34 pm

Yeah I figured that out when it started raining and other stuff every couple of minutes. I downloaded the natural environment mod because I liked something I saw but i forget what it was.

Most likely the tress and grass and everything. You can use that part of NE with a weather overhaul.

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:14 pm

im probably wrong but once you sorted the weather porblem, (of having two installed, can only be one) then use BOSS to help sort it out?

» Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:02 pm

Yeah I figured that out when it started raining and other stuff every couple of minutes. I downloaded the natural environment mod because I liked something I saw but i forget what it was. I did try both of them separately and I ended up liking the enhanced weather and water a lot more. I liked using I think it was enhanced and natural water together because I got a really cool look above water with clear water when I was underwater. But I had to deactivate the natural water because it made the water all most see through like I was looking through a glass of tap water. if i was standing on a hill looking down.

I recommend Enhanced Water (and the SI extension if you have SI) and Enhanced Vegetation.