There's no reason Morrowind couldn't have been more detailed, with more meaningful characters, while still maintaining all of the key features we old DF players loved.

Sounds like you whacked a door by mistake...

Reloaded instead of living with it because I thought it was rather silly though.

That reminds me, I did that on the same mage guild quest. Guard it against the thieves, accidentally hit the door, here comes the guards. Reloaded instead of living with it because I thought it was rather silly though.

I've never played Daggerfall (that seems like it will change soon) but from watching videos I definitely think the spirit of Daggerfall and Morrowind are much more similar than Morrowind --> Oblivion. Even though Morrowind is more limited in scope, it still feels like a living world, and you are free to play a role. AND I think there were improvements from Daggerfall to Morrowind that cannot be ignored. It seems to me at least that Magic and Archery were not well fleshed out, and magic only worked well because of the mechanics it allowed (healing, levitating, etc) and what happened with Oblivion was that there were no improvements like that, at all. Anything that worked well in OB was done just as well as MW, as far as gameplay is concerned, but not only did they not add any new elements, they removed quite a lot of content, dialogue, and choices. Morrowind had a wide open world, Oblivion had a tiny fantasy sandbox. It's in that respect that I think it has more in common with Daggerfall, and if only the Oblivion curved back towards DF, rather than moving in a linear direction from Morrowind.

I've always wanted to try daggerfall, but I don't think my mom would appreciate walking into my room to see me fighting a monster that looks like a nvde woman, for example.

Also,google Darklands if you need a fantastic RPG fix. Not 3D, more a mix of Sid Meier's Pirates and Baldur's Gate (!), but go to Gamespot and read the User reviews for it..... Outside of Elder Scrolls it is the best RPG I have ever played. Been on my hard drive for 15 years!

I feel bad that I fail to get immersed in a game with such graphics :/ Back in the day sure, it was awesome. But that time is gone and I really cant get back into those blotchy graphics and think "wow! Its just like being there"

So In a way, I suffer the reverse of your problem I wish I could get as "into it" as you.

I feel bad that I fail to get immersed in a game with such graphics :/ Back in the day sure, it was awesome. But that time is gone and I really cant get back into those blotchy graphics and think "wow! Its just like being there"

So In a way, I suffer the reverse of your problem I wish I could get as "into it" as you.

I feel bad that I fail to get immersed in a game with such graphics :/ Back in the day sure, it was awesome. But that time is gone and I really cant get back into those blotchy graphics and think "wow! Its just like being there"

So In a way, I suffer the reverse of your problem I wish I could get as "into it" as you.

Daggerfall was very "meh" for me. Daggerfall = Overated Nuff' Said.

Daggerfall is barely known outside the Elder Scrolls community, it can't be overrated if it's not rated.

Overrated are games like CoD, GoW and Halo.

In the RPG community, at least people that have been around - Daggerfall is known. However it is known for the misconceptions that it is a buggy/broken dungeon crawler and thats it, period.

Frankly, I just realized how much I hate Daggerfall. Before, whenever I wanted a decent RPG experience, I'd start up Oblivion and play through, granted, a fairly rich world. While it didn't engross me as much as Morrowind, I liked it quite a bit. (Especially because I lost my Morrowind discs.) I was happy playing Oblivion, wandering through the countryside, doing a little light roleplaying as an archer, or a thief. Sure, even as a sneaky thief, I could still go toe to toe with warriors, but that was fine. I'd go about my business, listening to a couple of NPCs talk to each other, admire the scenery, and go pick up a quest. Oh, go to a cave and deliver some weapons? Fantastic! Sure! Especially with mods, it was something else and continued to sap a lot of my time.

Then the unthinkable happened. Always wanting to try Daggerfall, I've unsuccessfully been able to find it for anything other than a ridiculously high price. Bethesda had to go and make it free. So, I figured, what the hell? Let's see what all the fuss is about, right? Let's just see why everyone likes this game so much.

I hate Daggerfall.

I just finished wandering through a dungeon for about an hour, tracking down a rogue wizard and killing him. I filled up my wagon with loot, and returned to the Daggerfall to get my reward. I wandered a bit, then walked outside in the rain. It was foggy, and I could barely see 10 feet in front of me. I walked back into the Mage's Guild to wait for the storm to die down and I figured I might as well grab a quest to help me advance. I got a guard quest, and so I did. I waited for the assassins, killed them, and just as I was about to finish up my shift, I hear..

Halt! Halt! Halt!

Startled, I lashed my sword out in front of me, accidentally striking a guard who was coming to arrest me for an unknown crime. I just committed assault on a member of the city watch. I panicked, and killed him and his partner. I darted around the guild for a second, then figured more guards would come, I scooped up the armor and weapons that the assassins and guards had on their persons, and shoveled it into my wagon. I had just finished guard duty when this happened, so I accepted my reward, and I darted out of the guild. It was still raining outside, the fog obscuring my vision. My health was low, and I couldn't rest because the guards were hunting me down. I couldn't go to prison for murder of two city guards. So..

I ran. I just picked a direction and ran as fast as I could. I was hoping to get to an exit so I could leave this damned city, but all I found was a wall of four guards waiting to arrest me. I turned around and saw guards closing in from behind me as well. I knew I wouldn't be able to take all of them, especially so wounded. I used a couple of heal spells, which almost completely drained me of magic. I still wasn't in shape to fight. I looked to my left and right, then frantically started to climb up the side of the building next to me. I heard, "Halt! Halt!" get louder as the city's strike force closed in closer. As I reached the roof of the building, I saw the guards were I once was, shouting at me from the ground. I was cornered and my only option was to die or go to prison for what would have to be years.

I started running.. I made a leap of faith from one rooftop to another. Dropping down into an alleyway and continuing to sprint towards the edge of the city as the words, "Halt! Halt!" echoed in my ears. Through the fog, I could make out the sheer wall surrounding Daggerfall. I hit the wall hard, desperately grasping at the stones as the guards closed on my heels. I started climbing.. as I reach the top of the wall, my hands slip and I fall. I manage to grab onto the stones again before hitting the ground, and proceed to succesfully climb the wall this time. I hear the guards shouting behind me as I breathe a sigh of relief. I deftly leap over the other side of the wall, grunting as I hit the ground hard. Almost defeated, I continue to run until I can no longer see that imposing, gray, stone wall.

Out in the wilderness, I manage to get a couple of hours rest, heal up slightly, and continue my journey. I continued to run for days until I crossed into another territory altogether. The guards and people here don't judge me as harshly as they do back in Daggerfall. I'm not a murderer to them. It was just an accident. I quickly set about selling the equipment I looted from the dead guards, put the money in the bank, and vow to start my life anew. I rested in a tavern for a long 14 hours. I suppose the only thing to do is look for work now.

***

I looked at the clock after all that had happened, and I saw that two and a half hours had passed since I stopped that rogue mage with good intentions. Two and a half hours later, my character is a murderer and a pariah of Daggerfall. I have never, ever experienced anything in a roleplaying game quite like that. After a little time, I started up Oblivion and played for... 15 minutes. I just couldn't get into it again. I couldn't have detailed conversations, I could very well be a vicious murderer, but accepted everywhere due to paying a pittance of a fine. I raided half of an Ayleid ruin and quit.

Don't get me wrong, Oblivion, in my opinion, is a fantastic game in its own right. However, for the 15 minutes I played today, I ran through the dungeon, slashing and hacking some bandits to death. If I got injured, I'd heal myself with magic or the plentiful potions. I didn't have to worry about either because I had tons of potions and my magicka regenerated quickly enough. My fatigue is a non-factor now on the character I'm playing in Oblivion. I don't *have* to rest, I don't have to do anything. Oblivion is a fantastic game, and while I do have complaints about it, I've certainly put enough hours into it to say that I like it. But after playing Daggerfall, and having the experiences I have had playing THAT game.. well.. roleplaying in Oblivion, which was once light, is now gone for me. As an action RPGish game, I love it. The combat (especially with mods) is fun and engaging, and all in all, it's a very in depth action RPG. Daggerfall has shown me, however, that there is much more than talking to a person and getting a quest, killing some bloke, and getting a reward. Politics, conversation, people hating you *just because* and there's not a whole lot you can do about it, ships, banking (Which I love, I know that's silly, but I like it), dungeons that feel like an epic adventure every time you set foot in one, climbing (Again, may be silly, but I love it). Crimes have long lasting effects to your reputation, and you can't just pay a fine. You pay a fine AND go to jail, or banishment, or you're forever on the run from the law every time you set your foot in that region. People hate you because you're a murderer. You cannot fix things with a bit of gold and say "Oh, sorry guys, I know killing is wrong, but here's 1000 gold. Is that okay? I'll give you an extra 1000 if I can kill your friend over there!!"

Oblivion has always served me well (not as well as Morrowind =P) as an RPG I could get lost in and be a character. Daggerfall, however, has shown me another plane of western roleplaying, and I love it.

I hate Daggerfall, because it ruined Oblivion for me.

I know this is a long, rambling post, so for all the TL;DR people out there.

Title = joke.
Me <3 Daggerfall.
Yay.