My loot scales. When Im level 12, the archmages robe is weaker than when I get it atl evel 35.

Same case for me too

New Vegas unique items were set, not scaled & it was fine. So no, your wrong. Moving on...

Like what? There are set unique items in this game too.

Edit.

fallout's locking-in of enemy levels for that area once you arrive was perfect.
I'm ok with the level-scaling, but level-locking is better.

I've been playing pen-and-paper RPGs, CRPGs (Ultima series, Wizardy, Bard's Tale, SSI "Gold Box", MW/OB, FO1 / FO3 / FO:NV, Bioware, etc), and JRPGs (SNES, PS1, PS2, PS3), for the past 30 years.

Different games have different styles.

And I enjoy that.

Some are unscaling linear-fests. Some are very scaled. Some are hack-n-slash no-plot games (Diablo & other similar "roguelike" ARPGs). Some are plot heavy. Some are plot light. 2D, 3D, fancy graphics, just text, whatever.

They've all been good.

And I still enjoy Bethesda "open world" scaled games for what they are. When I want a proscribed-path, story-heavy, choices-and-morality game, I pick a game that fits that category. When I want to beat crap up and get random loot, I pick a game like that. When I want an MMO, I pick a game like that.

I don't pick a game from a company with a known style, and then [censored]/whine/moan about it not being in some other style.


edit: Happy Thanksgiving! :tongue:

There is level locking, and refer to my post on page 11. It has all the proof you need of why the level scaling works in Skyrim and most of you are so wrong.

With no level scaling we'd end up with one of those crummy rpg's that is linear all the way through, makes a really poor attempt at the llusion of freedom and has a very definite and final ending after a 10 hour storyline.

There's absolutely loads of rpg's like that, (same price too, which is unbelievable considering the difference in amount of content) and they are all the worse off for it being little more than interactive films, that's the very reason why ES is so huge and in a league of it's own.

The one thing that has always made Elder Scrolls different to the competition is the free-roaming, open world, you can't have an open world worth replaying in if you can one-shot everything near the end, where would be the reason to pick up a high level character after a break, and go off exploring if you know there is no challenge to be had anywhere?

I definitely agree that you should feel more powerful at end-game than at the beginning, and if you don't then the level-scaling isn't balanced properly, but i think that those completely against level-scaling want a one-off experience, a beginning, a middle and an end without any more replayability, as far as i'm concerned i don't want my games turning into books, i want freedom in an open world and replayability for years to come, only level scaling can offer that.

They also scale with on the level in which you acquire them. If you pick up Nightangale armor at level 10, it will be completely nerfed compared to someone who acquires it at level 80. Horrible design.

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