I get where the person is coming from. I am guessing he doesn't mean quests that give random items adjusted for your level. But instead the unique looking armors/weapons. Like nightingale armor. Why should I have to get level 35+ to not get a weaker set of gear? I cannot make a non-enchanted version of it, so I am stuck with an already bad enchantment combo that is weak to boot. The only thing level scaling does in that case is turn a potentially serviceable piece of armor into vendor trash. It'd be better to either give me the best item to start with, or adjust the encounter to justify me earning that reward. (Through either a minimum level to start, or just scaling the monsters upwards)

I am not sure if the op realizes that almost all quests are scaled to an extent. For example the very first quest in white-run is level scaled. Do the quest in your early levels you get a steel weapon. Do them at level 20 and you get dwarven. I am hoping he doesn't mean a level 1 character should get a dwarven made weapon (or better) that early.

no it doesnt bad level scaling negates it, and without level scaling you either become a god or can only go to a very limited amount of places

Yeah, it's hard to feel you're becoming powerful when every enemy with a new suffix one-shots you :swear:

Latest encountered being Bandit Marauders, if they stopped being bandits they could slaughter all the dragons without breaking a sweat :lmao:

No. That is again two things. 1. The devs fault. 2. Your fault if you choose to become a walking god.

1. yeh and they fix that by adding level scaling so you cant murder everything in one shot
2. isnt the purpose of a RPG to play however you want?
and it is especially easy to become a god if you can get the best equipment early in the game

I realize that, and it makes me mad.

Scaling isn't a problem in Skyrim and going towards Morrowind/New Vegas scaling would be a huge mistake.

Why not just do some kind of limited level scaling? Similar to that found in OOO. Maybe I'm the only one, but that made TES4 far better and re-wired my brain to think about what I could and couldn't take on. And yet, It was not linear. And if one wishes to pick at nits, it could be said that no matter what happens the game is linear. The main quest is linear, the faction quests are linear.

The mages in this game have an insane amount of power to be sure. you have to pretty much hide and shoot arrows or spells, or rush them and hope there magic reserves are low... :shrug:

New vegas was a good game but since it didn't have level scaling it was very linear.

Hagravens are in the same catagory as well, although they are much easier to beat up close.

It is. Especially the gear. They should ditch it all together.

Scaling has one again utterly ruined another TES game for me.

Bye bye guys. 'Open world' is dead. You can't balance stuff for crap, I'm either two-shoting everything or dying in two hits to something. Often within the same dungeon.

It's clear that Bethesda's only solution is to ignore the problem completely. This is a beautiful bit of art, but an ugly hideous game, and I bought it for the game.

I will agree with you on that one. Up close they fall in seconds and once their magic is depleted they are pretty much pathetic.

I agree with you on this one. A touch dramatic, but the last line I agree with. Great piece of art, hideous game.

I have a question. Does magicka regen bonuses work in this game?

Beth doesn't really have that many options, we either go the Morrowind/New Vegas route with no scaling (Huge Mistake), The Oblivion route with total level scaling (Even Bigger mistake) or lastly we go with what Skyrim offers us. Skyrim's system is the best solution without going too far in either direction.

:flame:

10/10. Would rage again.

Indeed. It takes proper equipment, resistance potions, tactical Shouting, excessive quickloading and lots of swearing to kill them :lmao: And for some reason even Marauder and Nightprowler archers kill me in two shots despite me wearing Epic Orcish armor :blink:

Well, maybe this just the "it gets worse before it gets better" part of the difficulty curve ^_^

Nk scaling is a better idea. I especially hat scaled gear.

im sure one day they will find the right amount of level scaling one day, cant wait for TESXVI

scaling exist so develpoers dont have to work hard to put items inthe world

they would rather create a formula that does it for them

i see it as Lazy and brain-dead programming

instead of hand placing items and thinking about how the world should be they let a formula do it
and eventually get the modders to do their work for them by reversing what they have done and doing what they should have done in the 1st place!

This 100%

Morrowind and New Vegas both had scaling.

Morrowind - The higher level you got, the more common it was to encounter diseased or blighted mobs, that were much tougher than their non-diseased counter-parts.

New Vegas - Had scaled loot, and scaled mobs exactly the same way Skyrim does it. It just also had higher level mobs that spawned in certain areas no matter what level you were.

Hand Placed isn't always better because then that leads to going to x dungeon and picking up a powerful weapon early on. It's the same problem that Morrowind had, once you knew where X item was the game was a breeze. It doesn't matter if there's a hard enemy guarding that item, if you knew an exploit you'll get the item.