I hate "perks"!

Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:50 pm

Now don't get me wrong, the idea is great. My beef is with the name itself. Why perks? It works in fallout perfectly due to the world and tone. But outside of fallout it just makes me think of COD...Why not call them Feats? Or talents?

To be honest I'm surprised no ones brought this up. Perks sounds lame In a fantasy setting especially in a roleplaying game. I'm hoping Todd keeps calling them perks to help the cats new to ES understand what they actually are. And the term perk never shows up on screen at all...

Everything else is...I'm cool with
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:49 pm

Someone actually did bring it up. I remember a thread about this not more than a month ago.
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:05 am

I don't think they have actualy been called "perks" but whatever they are called you can probably just ignore it. They are most likely called "perks" anyway so the media and others can understand it more.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:57 pm

Exactly what I think about it.
I don't like the term "Perk" and I hope they'll change the name to a more fantasy roleplaying style.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:34 pm

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but it's your problem if you associate them with CoD. These things we are referring to are perks. The word "perk" is the perfect word to describe these things.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:55 pm

Buffs then?
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:06 pm

Now don't get me wrong, the idea is great. My beef is with the name itself. Why perks? It works in fallout perfectly due to the world and tone. But outside of fallout it just makes me think of COD...Why not call them Feats? Or talents?

To be honest I'm surprised no ones brought this up. Perks sounds lame In a fantasy setting especially in a roleplaying game. I'm hoping Todd keeps calling them perks to help the cats new to ES understand what they actually are. And the term perk never shows up on screen at all...

Everything else is...I'm cool with


Yeah the COD link is horrible, it's link they keep mentioning perks in their videos to get COD kids attention. I agree the name doesn't fit, perks are supposed to represent your characters commitment and time spent in the skill so feats or talents seem more fitting (though talents remind me of WoW...)
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:24 am

I know what you mean. "Perks" does sound really cheap and gimmicky, and does make me think of COD.

It remains to be seen whether the perks themselves are cheap and gimmicky, so who knows... maybe the name is quite befitting.
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:21 am

Now now, CoD fans can enjoy TES too
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:40 pm

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but it's your problem if you associate them with CoD. These things we are referring to are perks. The word "perk" is the perfect word to describe these things.


You don't think having the exact same name for a game feature thats nearly identical to a feature in an entirely different genre and title, comes off as being a tad lazy....
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:49 am

I'm with Seti18 on this one. If you don't like what you associate it with, thats your problem. This is not going to detract from the game in any way.
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:43 am

I know what you mean. "Perks" does sound really cheap and gimmicky, and does make me think of COD.

It remains to be seen whether the perks themselves are cheap and gimmicky, so who knows... maybe the name is quite befitting.


10x backstab damage with dagger, finally usefull to use over a sword as a assassin.


yeah, more than worthwhile already for me.
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:05 am

Now now, CoD fans can enjoy TES too


That they can, it's just bethesda naming them perks seem like a bit of a market strategy to catch their attention (even though the majority would likely not like this kind of game)... could be wrong though.
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:08 am

You don't think having the exact same name for a game feature thats nearly identical to a feature in an entirely different genre and title, comes off as being a tad lazy....

Health bar?
Mana bar?
Stats?
Attributes?
Mobs?

Games reuse terminology because it makes it easier to choose which game you want to buy, if every company had it's own names for everything it would unnecissarily confuse people. It's not lazy, it's convenient.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:07 pm

I'm with Seti18 on this one. If you don't like what you associate it with, thats your problem. This is not going to detract from the game in any way.


Didn't say it would. It will be an awesome game with a really really stupid name for level bonuses.....
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:58 am

A lot of people have brought this up before. Either way, it's just a label. Who cares :shrug:
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:11 am

Didn't say it would. It will be an awesome game with a really really stupid name for level bonuses.....

But it's a silly thing to complain about, really. Sure it could be called 'talents' or 'abilities', but I don't believe they fit more than 'perks'. They were called Perks in Oblivion, I never saw anyone complain.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:43 pm

Health bar?
Mana bar?
Stats?
Attributes?
Mobs?

Games reuse terminology because it makes it easier to choose which game you want to buy, if every company had it's own names for everything it would unnecissarily confuse people. It's not lazy, it's convenient.


I'm not saying for them to be completely rename every staple of an RPG. I just think "perk" isn't an appropriate term for a fantasy game. Especially when they just used said term in a game that takes place in the polar opposite of the RPG spectrum...it's weird
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:39 pm

A rose by any other name is just as sweet.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:53 pm

I won't be surpised if this issue becomes a M'aiq comment when Skyrim comes out.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:46 pm

There were perks in oblivion. they didn't do any harm. Maybe They didnt want to change the name.
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:06 am

Now don't get me wrong, the idea is great. My beef is with the name itself. Why perks? It works in fallout perfectly due to the world and tone. But outside of fallout it just makes me think of COD...Why not call them Feats? Or talents?

To be honest I'm surprised no ones brought this up. Perks sounds lame In a fantasy setting especially in a roleplaying game. I'm hoping Todd keeps calling them perks to help the cats new to ES understand what they actually are. And the term perk never shows up on screen at all...

Everything else is...I'm cool with

Go look up the word "perk" and learn what it means and you will know why they called it perks. I also suggest to stop playing COD becuase they did not invent the word "perk"
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:10 pm

10x backstab damage with dagger, finally usefull to use over a sword as a assassin.


yeah, more than worthwhile already for me.

So where does the extra 10x damage suddenly come from? :confused:

I'd prefer weapon damage to be determined by own attributes and skills that increase gradually over time, and the weapon's stats. Gaining a perk that suddenly multiplies how much damage I can do doesn't seem as natural a progression to me.

Then there's all the gimmicky perks that'll probably be included, like an archer's equivalent of Deadeye from RDR. I mean really... making something like that a perk would be so cheap when the game has magic and spells. The natural thing to do in an RPG would be to have a spell that once cast, appears to slow time and make the character more aware, allowing them to take their time with a shot. But no... why do that when you can remove the cause and simply call the effect a "perk". :rolleyes: I mean, that's what COD Skyrim players want, right? Immediate access to super powers that make them oh so awesome.
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Post » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:58 am

This thread reminds me that I have no idea what the word "perk" means. Leo.org translates it to something that means "extra allowance" or "fringe benefit" - the suggested German words are all from the financial world.

Oh roleplaying genre, always on the lookout for new words that fit one of your stats. :P
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:12 pm

The complaints are just getting plain ridiculous. First it was the factions, then the greaves and now the name of perks? Jesus H. Christ, can't you people find anything positive in the upcoming game? It really seems like some of you are complaining just for the sake of it.
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