A "Nu-Hatta of the Sphinxmoth etc..." Masterthread

Post » Sat May 21, 2011 8:56 am

Author: Michael Kirkbride
Okay. We're good so far. He's the author.

Well, I tried to help. Here's Nu-Hatta of the Sphinxmoth Inquiry Tree and his somewhat edited response:
There are already some questions I have. First off, what exactly is this a response to, the Nu-Hatta Intercepts? Also, if this is Nu-Hatta's response, why are other figures quoted below?

"Hnnnh. Critical subplex inquest: divine roster, supermundus physiotype."
Let the games begin. First we have "Critical subplex inquest"

-Crtical: important
-Subplex: Sub = lower. Plex = a division of a building, therefore a Subplex must be a lower division of a structure or more likely a metaphor to the substructure of something else
-Inquest: legal investigation, probably not pertaining to any written law of man in this context but more likely a universal law, like time or gravity etc.

Critical subplex inquest: An important investigation concerning the substructure (foundation) of a law of nature or the universe, possibly existence, given that the Nu-Hatta Intercepts dealt with the precursors to the Oblivion Crisis

Next, "Divine Roster". Both words are common, but the meaning still could still be very deceiving.

-Divine: Holy, could refer to any of the 9 Divines, but it probably references Akatosh, being that Oblivion (supposedly) ends with his (or an incarnation of his or one of his pieces') intervention.
-Roster: A list, could refer to the fractured nature of Akatosh.

The fact that it appears after a colon though indicates that "Divine Roster" is the query though or at least the first part of the query. So we know now the the inquest, the investigation concerning the foundation of this law of nature is calling into inquiry a list of something divine. Let's rephrase it without subplex and critical, just for the sake of simplicity:

"Inquiry: Divine List" With the search parameters being set to something concerning a base law of nature. But wait, there's something else in the search bar:

"supermundus physiotype" Not as complicated as it looks.

-Super: Greater/above
-Mundus: Earthly/mortal referring to Nirn no doubt.

Therefore supermundus must refer to something that is greater than or above Nirn.

-Physiotype: Features that make something unique from something else of the same category.

Supermundus physiotype: 1. Features that set apart a being that is greater than something mundane. 2. Unique features of a specific supermundane being.

Also, Supermundus could refer to something that is not necessarily above Mundus but a mundane being that is simply greater than the average mundane being.

So when taken with the previous components, "Supermundus physiotype" is just an accompanying search topic.

On the whole: Important foundational inquiry: list of divine beings, set of features of a being greater than Mundus or a being greater than the average Mundane being.

What does it mean? I'm guessing Nu-Hatta is searching for a list of characteristics/features of a being outside or above Mundus, all of which are pertaining to a natural law or existential foundation.

My only issue with this explanation centers around the inclusion of "Supermundus" as opposed to "Aetheric" or "Aedric". Is this inquiry even pertaining the a Divine, or is it simply a search into a greater being on Nirn that possesses the features, the physiotype of a Divine, and Aedra? From this point of view, Nu-Hatta could be searching for information concerning Shor.


More to come when I (and hopefully you too) dissect the following statements made by some of Tamiel's and Aetherius' kingpins (Tiber Septim, Arkay, King of Worms, Almalexia, Sotha Sil, Vivec, Dagoth Ur, Nerevarine).

Happy hunting! and к чёртов!
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 2:17 am

к чёртов!
I was laughing loudly)) Это было реально смешно :)

Next, "Divine Roster". Both words are common, but the meaning still could still be very deceiving.

-Divine: Holy, could refer to any of the 9 Divines, but it probably references Akatosh, being that Oblivion (supposedly) ends with his (or an incarnation of his or one of his pieces') intervention.
-Roster: A list, could refer to the fractured nature of Akatosh.
That means simply the "list of divines" (not the Eight or Nine Divines), 'cause Jabba theNu-Hatta gives such list - Tiber Septim, Arkay, King of Worms, Almalexia, Sotha Sil, Vivec, Dagoth Ur, Nerevarine. They all are things divine. Gods, gods-heroes.

To me, Nu-Hatta is giving metaphoric descriptions of personalities we met or heard during the TES3 with add-ons.
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 1:29 am

--- sorry, accidentally multipost ---
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 7:57 am

I was laughing loudly)) Это было реально смешно :)

That means simply the "list of divines" (not the Eight or Nine Divines), 'cause Jabba theNu-Hatta gives such list - Tiber Septim, Arkay, King of Worms, Almalexia, Sotha Sil, Vivec, Dagoth Ur, Nerevarine. They all are things divine. Gods, gods-heroes.

To me, Nu-Hatta is giving metaphoric descriptions of personalities we met or heard during the TES3 with add-ons.

Я счастлив, кто-то получил шутку!

But what I find odd about this one writing is that MK introduces the bit out of character, saying that he's giving a response by Nu-Hatta, then he goes on to provide a panoply of quotes by varying sources. Is every source speaking of the same event/subject, or are they just giving their own little adage? Also it seems rather odd in my opinion, for Arkay to be quoted at all. I didn't think the Aedra ever truly spoke. I guess the quotes are paired in some way:

Arkay/KoW, Almalexia/Sotha Sil/Vivec, Dagoth Ur/Nerevarine.

Plus it's interesting that the Nerevarine delivers such a cryptic response, given his/her general ignorance to such deep lore during Morrowind. Maybe he/she started reading up on everything after the game ended.
Кто знает...

Regardless, I'd love to get through this entire thing and anolyze every quote. I'm guessing that they will all point to the Oblivion Crisis in some way, but I'm not completely sure. At this point, Tiber's quote is the most helpful, given that it reveals much about the physics of TES.

By the way, does anyone know if this writing is the first time Tiber's quote appeared, or had it already existed in some other book/forum post?
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 10:22 pm

Я счастлив, кто-то получил шутку!
Spasibo, tovarisch! I am not funny jokes get you.

But what I find odd about this one writing is that MK introduces the bit out of character, saying that he's giving a response by Nu-Hatta, then he goes on to provide a panoply of quotes by varying sources. Is every source speaking of the same event/subject, or are they just giving their own little adage?
Why do you think there are multiple sources? These are just quotes from Nu-Hatta. So the source is only one - himself.

Also it seems rather odd in my opinion, for Arkay to be quoted at all. I didn't think the Aedra ever truly spoke. I guess the quotes are paired in some way:
Arkay/KoW, Almalexia/Sotha Sil/Vivec, Dagoth Ur/Nerevarine.
But you didn't mention Talos.
Arkay (by some sources) was another human who became god. Other sources tell that he was among first etAda.

Regardless, I'd love to get through this entire thing and anolyze every quote. I'm guessing that they will all point to the Oblivion Crisis in some way, but I'm not completely sure. At this point, Tiber's quote is the most helpful, given that it reveals much about the physics of TES.
As I said, the quotes are from Nu-Hatta, not from the named persons.

By the way, does anyone know if this writing is the first time Tiber's quote appeared, or had it already existed in some other book/forum post?
Mantling was discussed many times. Here, for example: http://www.imperial-library.info/content/walking-ways

Here you are: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/482103-made-up-word-round-up/ This is topic where some words were explained. Такие дела.
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 7:38 am

Why do you think there are multiple sources? These are just quotes from Nu-Hatta. So the source is only one - himself.

They are quotes from Nu-Hatta? Interesting. So he isn't quoting these people, but he is simply mentioning them. This whole time, I thought those comments were all spoken by those people, not Nu-Hatta.

Arkay (by some sources) was another human who became god. Other sources tell that he was among first etAda.

Do you know offhand which sources say Arkay was a man turned god? Was it a Nord legend?

Mantling was discussed many times. Here, for example: http://www.imperial-library.info/content/walking-ways

I'm all too familiar with mantling. I was just wondering if this writing was the first time that specific quote was used.
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 12:19 pm

Do you know offhand which sources say Arkay was a man turned god? Was it a Nord legend?


http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-arkay-enemy comes to mind.

Daggerfall also has http://www.imperial-library.info/content/daggerfall-arkay-god.
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