I made a thread a few days ago asking for a response from Crytek and from what people tell me here Crytek don't give a s**t about their customers. This not my opinion, so please don't ban me like the many others who have voiced their opinions strongly previously. But it's what I'm getting from others here and it's a belief that is currently forming within my own mind also.

Could you imagine if Crytek really did abandon their customers? I mean really think about it, they could be doing this now.

They released several patches in the first month and now nothing for 26 days and we haven't heard anything.

They also didn't care enough about their product to give the DLC away for free! The little following they had has now been divided even further between no-DLC and DLC communities. They have no intention of making this work or repairing customer relations.. why don't they want to breath life back into a dying game? Why add insult to injury?

What's even more funny is that they probably only sold a few thousand DLC units across platforms anyway, if that, because barely anyone is on the DLC. Let's say 5000 units x $10 = $50k. For a company that's already made millions of this was it really necessary to make their game worse for $50k? Look at this way they have sold about 600k of Xbox copies alone, so that 600k x $60 = 36 million! and this is for Xbox alone... so they must have made a least 50 million across all platforms. Isn't 50 million enough?? Dear God.

I would hate my job as a mod here. I hate any job in which I feel like what I do all day makes no difference to anything whatsoever. Deleting/merging threads and banning people who voice their opinions strongly is really not what I would call Job satisfaction.

I think you'll see a lot of improvements after the E3 convention.

I made a thread a few days ago asking for a response from Crytek and from what people tell me here Crytek don't give a s**t about their customers. This not my opinion, so please don't ban me like the many others who have voiced their opinions strongly previously. But it's what I'm getting from others here and it's a belief that is currently forming within my own mind also.

Could you imagine if Crytek really did abandon their customers? I mean really think about it, they could be doing this now.

They released several patches in the first month and now nothing for 26 days and we haven't heard anything.

They also didn't care enough about their product to give the DLC away for free! The little following they had has now been divided even further between no-DLC and DLC communities. They have no intention of making this work or repairing customer relations.. why don't they want to breath life back into a dying game? Why add insult to injury?

What's even more funny is that they probably only sold a few thousand DLC units across platforms anyway, if that, because barely anyone is on the DLC. Let's say 5000 units x $10 = $50k. For a company that's already made millions of this was it really necessary to make their game worse for $50k? Look at this way they have sold about 600k of Xbox copies alone, so that 600k x $60 = 36 million! and this is for Xbox alone... so they must have made a least 50 million across all platforms. Isn't 50 million enough?? Dear God.

I would hate my job as a mod here. I hate any job in which I feel like what I do all day makes no difference to anything whatsoever. Deleting/merging threads and banning people who voice their opinions strongly is really not what I would call Job satisfaction.
You speak for us all.

I have never regretted buying a game before until this one. The reviews were full of lies and did not tell the truth about how bug ridden the game is. Two months out and Crytek can't even fix something like the grain glitch. I have lost 90% of all my respect for Crytek because of their latest work. Needless to say, I will not buy another product from Crytek on day one. This game has taught me that you can't trust Crytek to deliver something as advertised in any timely manner. This was the case for the original Farcry and Crysis as well. Nothing has changed with this company. :/

I have never regretted buying a game before until this one. The reviews were full of lies and did not tell the truth about how bug ridden the game is. Two months out and Crytek can't even fix something like the grain glitch. I have lost 90% of all my respect for Crytek because of their latest work. Needless to say, I will not buy another product from Crytek on day one. This game has taught me that you can't trust Crytek to deliver something as advertised in any timely manner. This was the case for the original Farcry and Crysis as well. Nothing has changed with this company. :/

I know right, it's been over 2 months since they released the game and the game is the same as Day 1, the only thing that has got better is the map rotations. I've been looking through these forums since release praying for my favourite FPS of all time to be fixed, mostly the s**t lobby system that I've posted about recently.

I give up.

I made a thread a few days ago asking for a response from Crytek and from what people tell me here Crytek don't give a s**t about their customers. This not my opinion, so please don't ban me like the many others who have voiced their opinions strongly previously. But it's what I'm getting from others here and it's a belief that is currently forming within my own mind also.

Could you imagine if Crytek really did abandon their customers? I mean really think about it, they could be doing this now.

They released several patches in the first month and now nothing for 26 days and we haven't heard anything.

They also didn't care enough about their product to give the DLC away for free! The little following they had has now been divided even further between no-DLC and DLC communities. They have no intention of making this work or repairing customer relations.. why don't they want to breath life back into a dying game? Why add insult to injury?

What's even more funny is that they probably only sold a few thousand DLC units across platforms anyway, if that, because barely anyone is on the DLC. Let's say 5000 units x $10 = $50k. For a company that's already made millions of this was it really necessary to make their game worse for $50k? Look at this way they have sold about 600k of Xbox copies alone, so that 600k x $60 = 36 million! and this is for Xbox alone... so they must have made a least 50 million across all platforms. Isn't 50 million enough?? Dear God.

I would hate my job as a mod here. I hate any job in which I feel like what I do all day makes no difference to anything whatsoever. Deleting/merging threads and banning people who voice their opinions strongly is really not what I would call Job satisfaction.
You speak for us all.

Speak for yourself. This game's problems are nothing compared to the problems CoD, or Gears 2 has.

Hey don't flame me for posting this, but I play Black Ops Zombies now.. I got fed up with Crysis 2, (still own it and love the campaign) but the lag and migration issues pissed me off. Stop getting pissed off at Crysis 2, and play a game that you can enjoy, until they (or if) fix the bugged game.

Speak for yourself. This game's problems are nothing compared to the problems CoD, or Gears 2 has.

Wish my weed was as good as yours.

They also didn't care enough about their product to give the DLC away for free! The little following they had has now been divided even further between no-DLC and DLC communities. They have no intention of making this work or repairing customer relations.. why don't they want to breath life back into a dying game? Why add insult to injury?

What's even more funny is that they probably only sold a few thousand DLC units across platforms anyway, if that, because barely anyone is on the DLC. Let's say 5000 units x $10 = $50k. For a company that's already made millions of this was it really necessary to make their game worse for $50k? Look at this way they have sold about 600k of Xbox copies alone, so that 600k x $60 = 36 million! and this is for Xbox alone... so they must have made a least 50 million across all platforms. Isn't 50 million enough?? Dear God.


Love your post, agree with about everything. The part I've quoted however is something I haven't considered before. Though I believe your numbers are pretty far off, I do believe that the total amount of money they made off the DLC was less than 100k.

At first thought when reading your post my opinion was that they could have advertised free DLC and made more money off of new customers than they would have by charging for the DLC. After giving it some more thought though, this game has been traded in by so many people already that there is almost no way in hell that anyone is buying new copies of it anymore. So they actually made more money off the DLC by charging for it than giving it out for free.

So even though they only made like .5% of the game's sales in DLC, the only reason to give it out for free would be to try to satisfy their customers and keep their community alive. Which if it isn't already blatantly obvious, they don't care about their customers or this game's community. Crytek is by far one of the worst developer/company/organizations I have ever seen.

Listen,

I have said this like 10 times already on these forums. Learn to play the game and stop whining. I can get good scores consistently. I can kill people consistently. Do you want to know how? By aiming at them and pulling the trigger.

Again, this game is not like CoD or Halo, where the aim assist does all the work for you.

The only two problems I have with this game is that its under played and the buggy music in the menus.

Listen,

I have said this like 10 times already on these forums. Learn to play the game and stop whining. I can get good scores consistently. I can kill people consistently. Do you want to know how? By aiming at them and pulling the trigger.

Again, this game is not like CoD or Halo, where the aim assist does all the work for you.

You are so sadly mistaken. I've played FPS games since quake1... hell I even played Duke3d and Shadow Warrior over modem to modem connections. I'm by no means a professional gamer but I'm good enough to where if I had the time to play it like a real job I could be. Even with 1bar connections I can pull good scores and do really well but it svcks. I don't want to play with rubberband lag and the inability to win gun fights against players that are worse than me because they happen to live down the street from the host in **** russia. Honestly, there's so much stealth and "shoot you in the back" gunplay in this game that shoot outs aren't very common anyways. So being "good" at crysis2 is more about playing smart and knowing how to move throughout the maps. Aim isn't even all that important compared to other games.

HOWEVER. This game's aim assist is **** 100x more sticky than both halo and cod. The fact that you think this game's aim assist requires more skill than either Halo or COD just makes me think everything you say is probably going to be just as ignorant. This game is incredibly easy to be good at in comparison to just about every FPS game ever made. It could be more fun than most other FPS games, I agree with that, but when it comes to skill..... This game doesn't require much.

Listen,

I have said this like 10 times already on these forums. Learn to play the game and stop whining. I can get good scores consistently. I can kill people consistently. Do you want to know how? By aiming at them and pulling the trigger.

Again, this game is not like CoD or Halo, where the aim assist does all the work for you.

You are so sadly mistaken. I've played FPS games since quake1... hell I even played Duke3d and Shadow Warrior over modem to modem connections. I'm by no means a professional gamer but I'm good enough to where if I had the time to play it like a real job I could be. Even with 1bar connections I can pull good scores and do really well but it svcks. I don't want to play with rubberband lag and the inability to win gun fights against players that are worse than me because they happen to live down the street from the host in **** russia. Honestly, there's so much stealth and "shoot you in the back" gunplay in this game that shoot outs aren't very common anyways. So being "good" at crysis2 is more about playing smart and knowing how to move throughout the maps. Aim isn't even all that important compared to other games.

HOWEVER. This game's aim assist is **** 100x more sticky than both halo and cod. The fact that you think this game's aim assist requires more skill than either Halo or COD just makes me think everything you say is probably going to be just as ignorant. This game is incredibly easy to be good at in comparison to just about every FPS game ever made. It could be more fun than most other FPS games, I agree with that, but when it comes to skill..... This game doesn't require much.

You must be really frustrated with the game to twist the facts like that.

I mean, come on, if someone walks through your screen in CoD your crosshair even follows him. In crysis it just lowers the sensitivity.

Its idiotic to say a game is easy to be good at. Good is realative. Especially in a multiplayer game like this.

I have never even experienced any rubberband or teleporting in this game.

I'm curious about your stats now.

Speak for yourself. This game's problems are nothing compared to the problems CoD, or Gears 2 has.

Cocaine's one hell of a drug

Listen,

I have said this like 10 times already on these forums. Learn to play the game and stop whining. I can get good scores consistently. I can kill people consistently. Do you want to know how? By aiming at them and pulling the trigger.

Again, this game is not like CoD or Halo, where the aim assist does all the work for you.

The only two problems I have with this game is that its under played and the buggy music in the menus.

Ignore this, obvious troll statement. What has getting good at the game have anything to do with whether Crytek has abandoned us or not? lol

So if I increased my KD from 3.5 to perhaps 4.5 then Crytek will then start communicating and start sorting out the issues? So the s**t lobby system is due to the fact that I have a low KD and that I can't play the game? Give me a break.

Please tell me what special cheat button combination the good players have, so I can input this in so that migrations works, gives us good host, stops kicks us out of lobbies and all the rest of the problem with the lobby system I have addressed in a separate post.

I know this might sound like a bold statement, but I probably easily one of the best players in the world at C2. I rarely ever lose a game on IA unless I start mid-game or the migrations failed. Last week before I rebooted my W/L on IA was 14.20 and had a KD of 3.72, I won 71 games and lost 5 and those 5 were due to the aforementioned issues. I would win 14 games of IA before I got d**ked over by Crytek and I was given a false "loss" so please don't tell us this has anything to do with skill... idiot.

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was, in my eyes the game is consistent. Thats something most games nowadays are missing. I'm not trying to prove myself and show off my skills... Like you are.

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was, in my eyes the game is consistent. Thats something most games nowadays are missing. I'm not trying to prove myself and show off my skills... Like you are.

I didn't misunderstand anything.. you are talking about people getting better at the game and to stop complaining when the thread is about whether Crytek has abandoned us or not?

Convenient how you skipped over all this part of my last post. Again, I don't know how getting better at the game will fix the issues. So I need to be no.1 in the world to stop Crytek abandoning us to stop fail migrations? hahahahahaha

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was, in my eyes the game is consistent. Thats something most games nowadays are missing. I'm not trying to prove myself and show off my skills... Like you are.

I didn't misunderstand anything.. you are talking about people getting better at the game and to stop complaining when the thread is about whether Crytek has abandoned us or not?

Convenient how you skipped over all this part of my last post. Again, I don't know how getting better at the game will fix the issues. So I need to be no.1 in the world to stop Crytek abandoning us or for the lobby system to fix itself? So the issues in the game is because I'm a noob? hahahahahaha

You must be really frustrated with the game to twist the facts like that.

I mean, come on, if someone walks through your screen in CoD your crosshair even follows him. In crysis it just lowers the sensitivity.

Its idiotic to say a game is easy to be good at. Good is realative. Especially in a multiplayer game like this.

I have never even experienced any rubberband or teleporting in this game.

I'm curious about your stats now.

I'm not frustrated with the game, in fact I've given up on it. I barely play anymore and when I do I end up playing 2 games per hour that are enjoyable due to the **** host selection. I was however frustrated with Crytek for releasing a beta game for 60 dollars and having the worst customer relations in history.

It's hard for me to explain why the aim assist is more drastic in this game when you don't already see it for yourself but I'll give you some of my opinions as to why it's worse.

If you're ADS on a player in crysis2 and he runs passed you to your side your crosshair will lock on and spin you in 180 degrees without coming off the target. Very similar to how COD works at close ranges but nothing like halo. In fact I'm going to leave halo out of this cause really, there's not a whole lot of aim assist in halo, WAY less than cod or crysis for that matter. CoD has a ton of aim assist but not quite as bad as crysis. It just helps you in a better way. I find it hard to lead my targets in crysis2 because the aim assist is so magnetic that it makes it hard for me to position my crosshair in front of my target because it keeps locking me back on to him.

The main difference I see in the aim assist between cod and crysis2 is how user input isn't as important with crysis2. In COD it will lock on but if you aren't moving your stick in the right direction or the right increment(pushing the stick too far) it will drop the target. Like if a target runs passed you to your side it will literally spin you in a circle with out dropping the target but with CoD you have to hit your stick in the direction or it will drop the target, requiring at least a little reaction time on your part. That's not the case in crysis2, it won't drop the target at melee range period, it just sticks.

At longer ranges in CoD the aim assist only helps with very minuscule adjustments to your aim. The reason for this is the reason aim assist exists on consoles in general. It's hard to move your crosshair .03 inches to the left with an anolog stick. I don't care how great your aim is, moving your crosshair in extremely small amounts is hard to accomplish consistently. So if your target is strafing slowly to the left, you can barely move your stick to the left and the aim assist will register that you're aiming accurately, you just don't have the tools to do it as accurately as you want to because anolog sticks svck. So it helps you. With crysis2 it's just not the case. I can move my stick in the opposite direction or if the target is barely moving to the left I can move my stick all the way to the left and it will still take a half a second before the aim assist drops my target. It's just..... more aim assist.

That's why leading targets is so difficult in crysis2. In COD if I press my stick all the way to the left and the target is barely moving to the left, my crosshair will pass the target and keep going. With crysis2 if the target is barely moving to the left and I press my stick all the way to the left it will still keep the target for quite some time before allowing me to move beyond him in that direction. So when the target is running it's almost impossible to position the crosshair in front of him with out using an incredibly high sensitivity.

As far as my stats, I believe I'm at 2.3kd or something in crysis, about 2.7 in cod. Niether of those are really a good judge of my overall skill though. I'm not a stat whore and I generally despise the kids that aim for high KD's thinking that they actually matter. Only time you will ever see me going for a high KD is in TDM simply because it's the only game mode where a high KD matters. If i'm playing crash site, ctf, domination, or any other objective mode you will ALWAYS find me killing players near or on the objective, ALWAYS. I'll go 10-45 if it helps my team win but that's never really the case. I still rarely go under 1.5kd even when I'm all out blitzing an objective.

Not really sure why you need to call people bad players who can't aim just because we don't like to play with terrible connections and aren't happy with a total lack of customer relations from crytek. Figured I'd defend myself tho... I got plenty of time to waste. Don't tell my boss though.

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was, in my eyes the game is consistent. Thats something most games nowadays are missing. I'm not trying to prove myself and show off my skills... Like you are.

I didn't misunderstand anything.. you are talking about people getting better at the game and to stop complaining when the thread is about whether Crytek has abandoned us or not?

Convenient how you skipped over all this part of my last post. Again, I don't know how getting better at the game will fix the issues. So I need to be no.1 in the world to stop Crytek abandoning us or for the lobby system to fix itself? So the issues in the game is because I'm a noob? hahahahahaha

Most people whine about the game because they svck at it. Complaints about lag and hit detection are way out of proportion.

From that perspective, yes, I am saying that people should learn to play the game. Of course there are issues that have nothing to do with people understanding the game or not. Thats obvious. Stop making a strawman argument. I didn't say that it was.

You must be really frustrated with the game to twist the facts like that.

I mean, come on, if someone walks through your screen in CoD your crosshair even follows him. In crysis it just lowers the sensitivity.

Its idiotic to say a game is easy to be good at. Good is realative. Especially in a multiplayer game like this.

I have never even experienced any rubberband or teleporting in this game.

I'm curious about your stats now.

I'm not frustrated with the game, in fact I've given up on it. I barely play anymore and when I do I end up playing 2 games per hour that are enjoyable due to the **** host selection. I was however frustrated with Crytek for releasing a beta game for 60 dollars and having the worst customer relations in history.

It's hard for me to explain why the aim assist is more drastic in this game when you don't already see it for yourself but I'll give you some of my opinions as to why it's worse.

If you're ADS on a player in crysis2 and he runs passed you to your side your crosshair will lock on and spin you in 180 degrees without coming off the target. Very similar to how COD works at close ranges but nothing like halo. In fact I'm going to leave halo out of this cause really, there's not a whole lot of aim assist in halo, WAY less than cod or crysis for that matter. CoD has a ton of aim assist but not quite as bad as crysis. It just helps you in a better way. I find it hard to lead my targets in crysis2 because the aim assist is so magnetic that it makes it hard for me to position my crosshair in front of my target because it keeps locking me back on to him.

The main difference I see in the aim assist between cod and crysis2 is how user input isn't as important with crysis2. In COD it will lock on but if you aren't moving your stick in the right direction or the right increment(pushing the stick too far) it will drop the target. Like if a target runs passed you to your side it will literally spin you in a circle with out dropping the target but with CoD you have to hit your stick in the direction or it will drop the target, requiring at least a little reaction time on your part. That's not the case in crysis2, it won't drop the target at melee range period, it just sticks.

At longer ranges in CoD the aim assist only helps with very minuscule adjustments to your aim. The reason for this is the reason aim assist exists on consoles in general. It's hard to move your crosshair .03 inches to the left with an anolog stick. I don't care how great your aim is, moving your crosshair in extremely small amounts is hard to accomplish consistently. So if your target is strafing slowly to the left, you can barely move your stick to the left and the aim assist will register that you're aiming accurately, you just don't have the tools to do it as accurately as you want to because anolog sticks svck. So it helps you. With crysis2 it's just not the case. I can move my stick in the opposite direction or if the target is barely moving to the left I can move my stick all the way to the left and it will still take a half a second before the aim assist drops my target. It's just..... more aim assist.

That's why leading targets is so difficult in crysis2. In COD if I press my stick all the way to the left and the target is barely moving to the left, my crosshair will pass the target and keep going. With crysis2 if the target is barely moving to the left and I press my stick all the way to the left it will still keep the target for quite some time before allowing me to move beyond him in that direction. So when the target is running it's almost impossible to position the crosshair in front of him with out using an incredibly high sensitivity.

As far as my stats, I believe I'm at 2.3kd or something in crysis, about 2.7 in cod. Niether of those are really a good judge of my overall skill though. I'm not a stat whore and I generally despise the kids that aim for high KD's thinking that they actually matter. Only time you will ever see me going for a high KD is in TDM simply because it's the only game mode where a high KD matters. If i'm playing crash site, ctf, domination, or any other objective mode you will ALWAYS find me killing players near or on the objective, ALWAYS. I'll go 10-45 if it helps my team win but that's never really the case. I still rarely go under 1.5kd even when I'm all out blitzing an objective.

Not really sure why you need to call people bad players who can't aim just because we don't like to play with terrible connections and aren't happy with a total lack of customer relations from crytek. Figured I'd defend myself tho... I got plenty of time to waste. Don't tell my boss though.

Good post but what has this to do at all with my thread?

I've looked through the thread and Koning randomly says for no apparent reason and trolls that we svck and need to play the game better and stop complaining and then now a few posts later were talking about how the aim assist works.

I agree the aim assist is very strong on C2 but it has nothing to do with whether CRYTEK HAS ABANDONED US OR NOT, the same with Koning's posts they have nothing to do with the thread at all!

You misunderstood my post. What I meant was, in my eyes the game is consistent. Thats something most games nowadays are missing. I'm not trying to prove myself and show off my skills... Like you are.

I didn't misunderstand anything.. you are talking about people getting better at the game and to stop complaining when the thread is about whether Crytek has abandoned us or not?

Convenient how you skipped over all this part of my last post. Again, I don't know how getting better at the game will fix the issues. So I need to be no.1 in the world to stop Crytek abandoning us or for the lobby system to fix itself? So the issues in the game is because I'm a noob? hahahahahaha

Most people whine about the game because they svck at it. Complaints about lag and hit detection are way out of proportion.

From that perspective, yes, I am saying that people should learn to play the game. Of course there are issues that have nothing to do with people understanding the game or not. Thats obvious. Stop making a strawman argument. I didn't say that it was.

I agree lag and hit detection is perhaps overexaggerated but the lobby system is s**t and has nothing to do with player skill. I have 10 down/1up connection which is slow compared to others and I still have 3.5 KD and I don't pad my stats in Crash Site.

Regardless, these posts have nothing to do with my thread so please make a new thread about people exaggerating over the games issues if that's what you want to talk about.

Good post but what has this to do at all with my thread?

I've looked through the thread and Koning randomly says for no apparent reason and trolls that we svck and need to play the game better and stop complaining and then now a few posts later were talking about how the aim assist works.

I agree the aim assist is very strong on C2 but it has nothing to do with whether CRYTEK HAS ABANDONED US OR NOT, the same with Koning's posts they have nothing to do with the thread at all!

Nothing really, sorry for bogging your thread down. I've pretty much stopped coming to this forum for information from crytek cause they never release any.

Just felt like arguing with koning. He posts his **** all over everyone's threads who have anything bad to say about crytek. He's like the ultimate fanboy.

Koning does like to troll on everyone's thread like EmpReb, but regardless of what you say they are always right and your wrong so not worth wasting your time over.

If we could drag up the statistics of how many internet arguments finish with one side owning up to making a mistake it would be 1/1000. It is human nature to want to be right more than to find the truth.

Good post but what has this to do at all with my thread?

I've looked through the thread and Koning randomly says for no apparent reason and trolls that we svck and need to play the game better and stop complaining and then now a few posts later were talking about how the aim assist works.

I agree the aim assist is very strong on C2 but it has nothing to do with whether CRYTEK HAS ABANDONED US OR NOT, the same with Koning's posts they have nothing to do with the thread at all!

Nothing really, sorry for bogging your thread down. I've pretty much stopped coming to this forum for information from crytek cause they never release any.

Just felt like arguing with koning. He posts his **** all over everyone's threads who have anything bad to say about crytek. He's like the ultimate fanboy.

Lolz I maybe made 5 posts semi-trolling.

Listen,

I have said this like 10 times already on these forums. Learn to play the game and stop whining. I can get good scores consistently. I can kill people consistently. Do you want to know how? By aiming at them and pulling the trigger.

Again, this game is not like CoD or Halo, where the aim assist does all the work for you.

The only two problems I have with this game is that its under played and the buggy music in the menus.

It's nothing to do with the 'aim assist'.

The game is broken in many different ways.

People aren't complaining because they svck at this game, they are complaining because this game svcks with all the issues.

Take a look at the below 2 links, the game is full of problems.

http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=11567

http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=25575

Crytek have had 9 weeks to address these issues.

I believe we have been hung out to dry.