We'll have dual swords, but what about dual shields?

Post » Tue May 10, 2011 7:07 pm

Two shields is for Pussies come on useless but it is confirmed
in a While your Shield get Broken so you can't block all the time
and you can't attack with shields but it is good for Defensive Players who doesn't want to get hit till the shields are Broken :rofl:
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Kayla Bee
 
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 12:01 pm

In the medieval ages there was actually a fighting style where you use just a shield. Of course their shields had spikes and knifes sticking out of them, but they were still using just a shield. In TES there are lots of shields with spikes, before they were just for looks, but now with the better combat system it make sense if you could take advantage of them. Getting impaled by a sharp object usually kills you, whether its form sword or a shield.

Indeed, shields are deadly. Ask the Spartans. A shield bash can easily cause a concussion or even crack the skull.

That, and duel wielding shields would be epic if only for the lulz. Attack with a flurry of bashes! bash bash bash bash - thud.

The people opposed to this obviously have no sense of humor or take rpg's waaaay too seriously.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 4:37 pm

Well there are times that the best "locking mechanism" against stupidity is to just let practicality make its own case.

Why waste time coding in a lock against it? I'm pretty sure it'll be possible.

And I don't see what's cowardly about using two defensive tools. There's an enjoyable irony to beating an enemy to death with an implement designed for exactly the opposite purpose. Whoever invented the shieldbash must've had on wicked sense of humour, or he might've been drunk, you couldn't really tell in those days...

As for the thought of wasting time coding it in to allow you to, unless they are specifically marking each item as dual-wieldable, it'd be easier to just tell the system that anything that can be held in one hand can be dual-wielded and anything that requires two hands can't be, or tell it everything can be and then build a list of exceptions. Either way, there's more time wasted in ruling out stuff that does make sense (at least logically), such as dual wielding absolutely anything that only requires one hand to operate.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 10:42 am

Spinning attack = lift off ground like a helicopter!
Since trees or the wind is more noticable, shields are now another form of locomotion like a sail car.
Wind surfing?
Comic clap finishing move a la cymbal smash oponents ears and watch his head "ring"
Fortress shield with a buckler = good defense and a thrown Frisbee-like weapon
Privacy for the realists who use bathroom mods (except glass shields ;)
2 large shields means shade for a vampire

2 shields could be interesting!
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Philip Rua
 
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 10:19 am

You can duel with shields?
Mind is blown. :lightbulb:
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:14 pm

In Demons' Souls, you can dualwield shields and people have been known to dualwield them IRL (typically smaller shields of specific types). Use one for blocking, the other one for bashing. My point is that it's neither undoable nor unrealistic.


So I've given this some more thought, and I think using two shields just might work if executed properly. Here are just a few ideas that would make it compelling:

- A standing bonus to your Damage Resistance whenever two shields are equipped, essentially making the shields extensions to your Armor/AR.
- When blocking an attack with two shields at once, some damage is reflected back to the attacker.
- When shield bashing with two shields at once, extra bonus to damage w/ a chance of knocking down your opponent.
- A special shield clap attack with bonus damage and a chance of disarming your opponent.
- A running shield charge that knocks back/stuns lower level enemies that are caught in your path.
- A spinning whirlwind shield attack, bonus damage, that can disarm and/or knock all enemies within a given radius to the ground. Penalities to your stamina afterwards, with maybe a vertigo effect depending on your agility or acrobatics.

Just something to think about. Devs are unlikely to do this, I guess; but a modder totally should. I think it would be interesting.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 2:21 pm


And I don't see what's cowardly about using two defensive tools. There's an enjoyable irony to beating an enemy to death with an implement designed for exactly the opposite purpose. Whoever invented the shieldbash must've had on wicked sense of humour, or he might've been drunk, you couldn't really tell in those days...



I bet some guy in battle was "O crap I dropped my sword!" and someone comes along to finish him off and he just madly swings his shield in vain and happens brake his attackers face.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 4:52 pm

Uber Sheild bash FTW!
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 1:02 pm

While holding the two shields, you can perform a special move called "The Clapper".

I am lying.


=D
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 2:55 pm

Psst...

Spoiler
It's dual.


I think the confused turtle may actually be a perfectly valid choice of wargear in the right circumstances. Imagine being out of arrows, potions, and magicka, with one badly-worn sword, and a monster-infested journey between you and the relative safety of the nearby settlement. You're doomed! But... you do have those two shields you looted from the last dungeon. Maybe if you keep both shields up and make a dash for it!
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 3:18 pm

You would only be able to block with one at a time, the other one is for bashing.

You can't block and bash at the same time either though which gives the same capability as one shield,

Psst...

Spoiler
It's dual.


I think the confused turtle may actually be a perfectly valid choice of wargear in the right circumstances. Imagine being out of arrows, potions, and magicka, with one badly-worn sword, and a monster-infested journey between you and the relative safety of the nearby settlement. You're doomed! But... you do have those two shields you looted from the last dungeon. Maybe if you keep both shields up and make a dash for it!


You can't keep a shield up all the time like oblivion I'm trying to tell people
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 1:02 pm

Could be an especially deadly fighting style if the shields have razor edges. I'm not expecting that to happen, but it could be interesting.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 1:26 am

I'll dual wield shields, sounds fun!

I believe that using double shields will already have it's own advantages, advantages that would appeal to certain playstyles. One of my firends is one of those who loves playing the "unkillable tank" in MMORPGs. Out of all the things I told him about Skyrim, dual shields was the more awesome to him. Using two shields would give you more armor, which for those who wish to "tank" or "turtle" means alot since they take less damage. If one shield blocks and one attacks, then it provides these players an offensive manuver in combat without sacrificing that extra armor. This is also important because magic has to be equipped now, meaning you can't go around casting with both shields equipped. I don't think it needs much more than this, but a charging lunge would be nice.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 3:19 am

I was pretty sure that someone asked this Pete and his reaction was like "lolwut? two shields?RU kidding?". But I couldn't find it. Now I'm confused turtle.

And in that picture it really sounds like joke. So does it in a game where you can only bash with a shield (using stamina AFAIK) and a shield takes a percent of damage, not the whole. Seriously, that'd look ridiculous and pointless.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 2:04 pm

Psst...

Spoiler
It's dual.




Lol, I had no idea they were spelled differently I thought they were the kind of words that are spelled the same and can only be told apart form the context of the sentence.
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Matt Terry
 
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 12:45 pm

Lol, I had no idea they were spelled differently I thought they were the kind of words that are spelled the same and can only be told apart form the context of the sentence.

This is either good sarcasm or just funny. I understand what you mean though. Things like (bad example, only one I can think of) "read" being past tense (red) or present tense (reed) depending on the sentence. It can also mean observing things that aren't actually read like words.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:34 pm

i heard it was confirmed, but from where? what magazine. ?
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Daramis McGee
 
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 5:27 pm

Dual shields?

O_o
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Brad Johnson
 
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 1:06 pm

I would love to play a DW shield character!


If it ends up not being in, I'm sure it would probably be modded in days within release.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 8:17 pm

i read somewhere that shield bash will be activated by pressing the block button followed by the attack button. I'd imagine that fighting like that would feel wierd. just rapidly alternating shoulder buttons ( L and R) or alternating left click and right click. i dont know, i just feel like it would turn into a button masher :/
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 3:55 pm

Must have game now. The more I find out the more I want it.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 6:41 pm

This is either good sarcasm or just funny. I understand what you mean though. Things like (bad example, only one I can think of) "read" being past tense (red) or present tense (reed) depending on the sentence. It can also mean observing things that aren't actually read like words.

Heteronyms are what you're looking for. Duel and dual don't count because they're spelt differently.

Anyways. Look down. Back up! What's that on my hands? Two shields - those things that you love! Look again. The shields are now ON FIRE!

I'm on a horse. Its armour only cost me $4.99.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 11:14 pm

I want to duel weild bows.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 3:20 pm

Assuming that, like Oblivion, shields will be armor then no you can't duel wield because you can presumably only wear one piece of armor per body piece.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 3:18 pm

I think the confused turtle may actually be a perfectly valid choice of wargear in the right circumstances. Imagine being out of arrows, potions, and magicka, with one badly-worn sword, and a monster-infested journey between you and the relative safety of the nearby settlement. You're doomed! But... you do have those two shields you looted from the last dungeon. Maybe if you keep both shields up and make a dash for it!


Or you can just... fast-travel. :celebration:
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