i've been reading quite a few posts on here from people saying they traded or are trading in Brink for L.a. Noire and i cant help but laugh when i think of what they have just done. they have basically decided to swap a game for a film. but not only that, one of the reasons for swapping brink was because of texture pops in brink. i'd love to see the look on there face when Noire constantly pops in there face. and as for the gameplay. what gameplay? its the worst game I've ever played because there is nothing to do in it. yes brink has some issues and hopefully they will get fixed eventually as i love the game but do people not do there own research on games first before parting with there cash. brink also had its fair share of complainers about brink not having a proper single player campaign but if you did your research before pre-ordering your game then they would have also found this info out. i just think some people deserve what they get if that's the way they go about there business.

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Not owning 'Noire (and not really taken by it) I can't really see why people would trade Brink in, even though it has faults. But then again I don't trade in games period. For me, first impressions in games don't count. You have to get the whole picture, look at the whole experience, and then, if you're stilll not sold on it, by all means trade it. The people who have done so don't need to explain themselves to you or me or anyone, because they didn't enjoy the Brink experience, but I also agree that they shouldn't come on here and whine about it to the rest of us. Belt up, haters.

I've yet to play a RockStar game that hasn't bored me to tears. But trading in Brink for any other game at this point isn't such an outlandish idea.

you get games that lag badly and you have to leave the game. you get games where the teams are heavily out balanced with human players. you get games with hardly any real players on it. i have fits of rage and moments of totally euphoria but there are also those unique times when lag, players and gameplay are so good that i can forgive it for all its other faults.you never know what your going to get with each game of brink. brink is a game that moves your emotions in every direction and i like a game that can do that.

I don't have L.A. Noire, but I'm only mildly curious about it, so I'll be waiting for the price drop.

I have a feeling it's gong to have a few elements of "Heavy Rain" style to it, but it sounds like it's kind of doing its own thing with the idea. Wouldn't mind seeing how that turns out, because I quite enjoyed Heavy Rain. Glad I got it cheap, but it's still fun.

Have you played Noire? Not trying to start a flame war, but i'm gonna try to explain why you dislike Noire and please tell me if im far from the mark

Visual:Noire has much better visuals than Brink both graphically and aesthetically. On top of that there's is absolutely no Texture pop-in for me. That is probably caused by your computer because im running it full screen on the highest settings are everything is crisp and clean unlike brink. And while the debate about the games aesthetic compared to brink is an opinion based one, the debate of graphical quality isnt. LA Noire outshines Brink in sheer quality and amount of power. I felt so much more involved in the world than brink ever lets you feel and its due to the amazing atmosphere that LA Noire provides. Not just visually but in the audio department as well.

Audio:On an Audio level Brink fails on every aspect. From the terrible voice actors to the lack of a soundtrack while LA Noire provides great audio production and even though the music isn't to my liking, it fits with the era the game takes place in and helps create the environment. This can also be seen as a matter of opinion, but audio file by audio file LA Noir provides higher quality and more of it.

It's a movie not a game:As for your comment regarding trading for a film, its quite simple really. L.A. Noire provides not only a believable environment and of the 50 actors, that is correct a video game with acting not just voice actors, not one gave a performance i disliked. I find it funny how everyone praises Brink on how it took so many risks and was so original, but you proceed to bash Noire despite the fact Rockstar studios routinely takes more risks with it's non-GTA franchises than Brink ever did and Noire is much more original than Brink. The reason this game feels like a film is because its main focus is the story something all FPS's and the holy BRINK needs to do also. You can not even begin to compare Brink's paper thin story presentation to LA Noire's. it's comparing a 6th graders English class essay brain-storming session to a John Grisham novel. This is probably the hardest sentance to write because Brink's universe has a great story but the game itself shows this in no way.

Gameplay: Brink is much more active and engaging but that's not necessarily a good thing. We have to look back at the ascetic again. La Noir is focused on story telling not run and gun so its slow pace fits much better. Brink delivers on its promise of a unique movement system and requirement for teamwork but its a different genre of game. I will agree with your statement about there is not much to do besides the story, I disagree however on the fact that there's nothing to do. there is side missions and activities not as much as Red Dead Redimption but enough to be justifiable in this game. I will say this about LA Noire the ending is abrupt and doesn't fit well.

Originality: Brink took risks in the FPS genre but not as a video game. Team-based class shooters are not original.Getting rid of TDM is not original .LA Noire tested new technology, Risked enormous amounts of money, and is a one of a kind game. No other game used the motion capture technology LA Noire did, not one. The amount of money behind this project is amazing Rockstar once again gets a thumbs up for taking bold steps in the video game industry. This game is not GTA:1945 It is is an original Game type that is a great reference to the old school point and click adventure games while staying different enough to be a breath of fresh air into the video game industry. Brink was Fresh in the FPS genre but not video gaming as a medium.

Lets discuss Rockstar studios for a minute. The GTA seris is stale, fragrant, and boring. the have released the same game since 3 with updated graphics. Rockstars other games Are GOOD and most of them are not just good they are AMAZING. Red Dead Redemption was the best Open World Game to date. It provided not just a great story but provided solid game-play to back it up. Include in that the fact there's so much to do in it. LA Noire dosnt provide as much activity but does almost as well in the story department. Rockstar is a solid developer and just releases GTA games so they can afford to do more original games Like Noire and Red Dead.

Final notes on Noire: I spent the Entire game thinking of when i was little and would watch Noire movies with my grandpa. I was a little kid and he'd explain enough of it for me to follow and I still cherish those memories. I remember pretending to be a detective after watching them and solving all kinds of crimes. So LA Noire also gets a thumbs up for relating to its audience. Please note that my Opinion on the game isnt affected by these memories. I still feel that this game was missing a few things but over-all is much better than i expected.

I have to laugh when I see people criticizing others for doing exactly the same just from the other side.
Silly really devoted fan attitude

Brink isn't better than Noir, it is just different.

Your comparing two completely different worlds that should never be compared

You are correct sir. I am doing the exact thing I said I was against because the fact is I'm a human being. But I did acknowledge the fact it's opinion based on most of the sections and the arguments I defended were the technical aspects. Which is more than the Brink Community is willing to do in most cases and being the insecure a-hole I am, I'm gonna use this to boost up my entirely tiny ego. SO yes i did act like a fan boy but i used more fact than opinion in my argument, and i refrained myself from explaining why your a person who dislikes putting serious thought into and just like the justification brinks story offers to say your better than other fps fan's, SO ha I'm better than you are.

but on a completely serious note Brink and La Noire are two very different games like Pony said and I pointed out in my reply. So when threads start saying that its a bad idea to trade in one game for another it is my duty as a NON-GTA Rockstar fan boy to react and show why this thread is irrelevant.


I did not orignially start comparing the two, OP did. i used the same things he did to argue a counter-point

I addressed the comment to Helpmeout the original poster:)
I totally agree what you wrote in your long post.
After all I think this whole post is about me becouse I made a post of trading the game for Noire.

oh my bad. Well then good move man. I wish the ending wasn't as abrupt though.

At least L.A Noire Works

your right the graphics in noire totally destroy brinks but i never said that. what i said was the textures constantly pop in the game on the xbox anyway. and the game is really very boring. I'd advise anyone going to buy it to read some customer reviews first and you will find the word boring is constantly getting used. i just dont think its a good game swap. but my main thread was about the textures popping and that is correct on the xbox version of noire.

I was using the word silly not idiot or something:)
But I thing fanboyish thinking should die out

I am an FPS fan so rockstar games (while cool in their own right) don't satisfy my gaming needs. I don't like third person view and I don't like lock-on auto aim.

honestly if you think noire might have the same depth of gameplay in red dead redemption single player then forget it. its no where near it. noire has bucket loads of glorious cut-scenes, graphics, script and acting. but gameplay with a game pad very little and what there is is just the same things over and over on every case. rent it out first its like brink you'll either love it or hate it.

I live in Hungary there are no game rentals here yet. We still use candles for lighting
You know repetition in games dont bother me if the mood of the game keeps me going.
But Im not expecting the game to rock my world I just want to have fun

Save the sixty bucks and just watch Chinatown starring Jack Nicholson.

well its impossible for me to know if you will find noire fun. but its slow paced and the game controls when you can do things like shooting people and picking stuff up and interviews and stuff. you cant go off on one like in other rockstar games. but seriously read some reviews first i'd hate to see someone buy something thinking its going to be a real blast then you spend the most part of the time just watching the tv rather than getting some good game-pad action that is why most people buy games is it not. not to just watch the tv.

I'll see. Actually It always bugged me that you killed about 50people per mission in GTA some realism should boost the roleplay/realism factor.
But im planning on selling la noire too after played it dry

I have both games and I can tell you this. L. A. Noire (seeing as how it has no multiplayer) has a FAAAAAAAAAAAAR beter story than Brink, that being said, Brink has a FAAAAAAAAAAAR better multiplayer than Noire. Brink built on it's SMART feature, gameplay, and it's customization; Noire built on it's detective work, gameplay, and the facial features and models to help out with the investigations.

TC just got owned, as do most f a n b o y s.

SD and Bethesda tried to do something somewhat original and completely failed on every level and deserve
very little, if any, praise for their unpolished, repetitive, buggy mess of a game. The idea was there, but the
execution was clearly not.

Team Bondi and Rockstar did do something original and should be highly praised for the quality and innovative
approach of the product they released. They actually brought something new to the video game industry with
LA Noire and have possibly set a new standard in gaming with their successful use of MotionScan.

I have to laugh at people who actually attempt to praise Brink and call it a good game, but can't really come up
with any reasons why they think this is so.

Instead of bashing other people and other games lets try and discuss Brink constructively and help turn what's
left of this community into one that projects a little intelligence and maturity.

However, if you're gonna act like a horse's *** then expect to get treated like one.

LA Noire is a positive step for video games as a medium. On top of that its coming from the bad kids themselves Rockstar. It shows that our medium is more than just interactive mindless violence. Coming from the people who make Jack Thompson favorite game to rub in everyone's face this is very good. Our Industry's bad boy company is showing that gaming is a real art form and is worthy of respect. They showed with LA Noir and Red Dead that video games can tell stories that can truly effect the way we see the world around us. On top they have proved twice now that video games deserve big budgets because both LA Noire and Red Dead made back there budgets and then some. La Noire had a 100 million dollar budget that's equal to and surpasses alot of Hollywood movies these days. From free internet flash game to millions of dollar pieces, this shows our medium is growing and maybe one day we can be seen as a true art form. I doubt this will be the game that makes people take games serious but without a doubt its a step in the right direction.



I fail too see how resorting to name calling is helping the discussion. But looking back at my long reply i did do it in a somewhat civilized manner. ON that note every post in this thread has been decent until the end of yours. Of course your comment is written strangely and it is hard for me to understand your point. You agree that LA Noire is good and that Brink has difficulties but it dosnt feel like that.

so heres what i got

LA Noire good, brink terrible, help make brink better, you kids are dumb?

My long reply was based on a misinterpretation of the op's meaning which we have clarified in posts after. so here we go on your idea of compareing the two to help make brink better

story: Brink needs to focus on its story more and use a better visual and audio system to make the player feel invovled which La Noire does well.
technical: Spend more time hammering out difficulties.