Do I HAVE to take up Smithing to get Daedric and/or Dragon a

Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:20 am

Or can I just work my way up through the dungeons/levels, and obtain the best possible gear from dungeon crawling?

I am an archer/melee type class and want to get Dragon armor, but I don't want to smith it...I'd like to find it in a dungeon or killing a dragon or something.

Is this possible?
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Damian Parsons
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:47 pm

No you can find it. I read about someone finding a dragon bone shield at a lowish level
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Mr. Allen
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:17 am

You can find dragon armor, but it will take you a long time to get it. Smithing it is definitely much faster. Same with daedric.
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Gen Daley
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:44 pm

If you want to pick it up sooner rather than later, yes. My character is just creeping up on 30 and I have not seen a single piece of daedric armor or weapons. However, I am only a few points away from being able to smith dragon armor...I dont think there are any dragon weapons to forge. I also focused on enchanting so I can just custom make my own gear.
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Setal Vara
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:48 pm

If you want to pick it up sooner rather than later, yes. My character is just creeping up on 30 and I have not seen a single piece of daedric armor or weapons. However, I am only a few points away from being able to smith dragon armor...I dont think there are any dragon weapons to forge. I also focused on enchanting so I can just custom make my own gear.


So I'm wondering if we need to be a certain level before Dragon armor starts dropping off mobs, etc? Because being level 15-20 and having the best armor in the game via smithing doesn't make much sense to me.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:42 am

I`m lvl 54 and I found my first daedric item, the warhammer. Been finding ebony forever and it was nice finally find something instead of having to craft it.
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Vickytoria Vasquez
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:24 am

Level 54 character, all I've found is daedric boots, one pair.

Other than that It's always just ebony.

And still haven't found a complete set, just individual parts, very rarely.
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Jade MacSpade
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:45 am

Personally, I don't think you should be able to find dragon armour. It's an organic substance which would only have been used by a select number of humans; reason says that after a few thousand years the already rare equipment would be made rarer still by decomposition, unless dragon bones are somehow infinite in their integrity.

In fairness this line of reasoning is also why I'm against the removal of a weapon/armour degradation, and finding perfectly functional iron/steel armour in dungeons.
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Sherry Speakman
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:23 am

im lvl 33 currently with 100 in smithing and fully perked out minus the glass.
i just started finding ebony on the regular. ive gone through dragon armor and im now on legendary daedric armor.
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Hannah Barnard
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:09 am

Look on the wiki

Cheers
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Setal Vara
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:38 am

Can someone confirm that Dragon armor is a "craft item only"?
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:19 am

You can find dragon armor, but it will take you a long time to get it. Smithing it is definitely much faster. Same with daedric.



This. The gear that appears as loot on the enemies you kill levels up as you level. IE: A bandit "chief" you kill at level 1 will have fur armor, maybe a piece or two of hide/leather. That same bandit chief, killed at level 20 may have Elven armor instead. Thus, once your character achieves a high enough level, you will start finding Daedric/Dragon armor on your enemies. Oblivion had the same system. However, in Oblivion, you tended to get to a certain point where EVERY enemy became a Glass/Ebony/Daedric loot pinata, and you could gather several full sets of top-tier armor just by running one dungeon... They hopefully learned from this, and made Daedric and Dragon armor much harder to obtain in Skyrim. Since you have the alternate option of leveling Smithing and obtaining the same gear quickly but at a cost in materials, there are two balanced choices:

Smithing: You get your daedric/dragon armor quickly, and possibly even earlier than you really need it, but have to invest time to level, and buy a ton of materials.
Looting: Your daedric/dragon armor is free, but spawns slowly, randomly, and only at higher levels.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:07 am

It's not, spotted Dragonscale Helm in one of the bandit dungeons.
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Stephanie Kemp
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:56 am

Ebony armor is plentiful and while Daedric/Dragon is rare the upgrade difference is so marginal.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:06 am

Just approving it further that you can find Dragon Armor. I found Dragonplate in the Master "Training" Chest in the Thieves guild when I opened it around Level 50 something.
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jeremey wisor
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:54 am

You CAN craft Daedric Armour and weapons without ever investing a single minute in Smithing, let alone taking the Daedric Perk.

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Atronach Forge upgrades Ebony items into Daedric weapons and armours, even enchanted versions, once you have done the Conjuration Ritual. The ingredients in the recipes aren't exactly commonplace, though... which is handy since the Atronach Forge also has ways of making some of those items too.

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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:09 am

It's not, spotted Dragonscale Helm in one of the bandit dungeons.


me too, I was on level 10 that time
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:36 pm

Don't you need smithing to improve these items though? Like to flawless, etc..
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:43 am

Can someone confirm that Dragon armor is a "craft item only"?


I just found Dragonplate armour in a dungeon, so its defiantly not a craft only item. (I'm level 46)
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:52 pm

Don't you need smithing to improve these items though? Like to flawless, etc..


You can improve any armour without any Smithing. The amount you can improve a given material is based on your Smithing skill and the relevant Perk. Low smithing skill might only be able to improve Daedric to Fine, while high Smithing might make it to Flawless, but you'll need the Perk to make it Legendary.
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Damien Mulvenna
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:56 pm

I don't think you should be able to find dragon armour :/
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Justin
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:48 am

Can someone confirm that Dragon armor is a "craft item only"?


No, I've found a few bits of dragon armour.
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Maddy Paul
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:19 pm

I don't think you should be able to find dragon armour :/

Why not. If it can be smithed then it should be able to be found. Some adventuror could of bought it off a smith and it ended up in a dungeon somewhere when that adventuror died. I mean you gotta assume as soon as the dragons came back, people started making dragonscale/bone armor. Your character cant be the only one who is pwning dragons left and right
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:38 am

If you want a full set of this stuff though, you need to get smithing. Or have ridiculous patience.

Lvl 52 character and lvl 42 character here, and I have found 1 daedric sword. That's it. No other pieces of daedric or dragon gear.

Playing 300 hours to get that daedric suit doesn't sound too appealing.
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Anthony Diaz
 
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:41 am

I found Dragonplate Armor of Major Restoration in a ruin at level 37 [I think].
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