I remembered Fallout 2 had a car that let you travel, so vehicles are a part of Fallout lore.

Have they mentioned anything about vehicles in FO4 yet?

Would be so cool to ride across the wasteland in a dirt bike or a self-constructed tracked vehicle Mad Max style.

they confirmed no vehicles apart form the vertibirds a while back

at least in the base game

i guess they could show up in DLC, but it's a no for the main game itself

Khajiit would adore one of those motorcycles with tank tracks on the back! Modders?

I always wondered why they aren't doing vehicles in a Fallout universe.

I mean if Elder Scrolls has horses as mode of transports, i'm sure Fallout can have make-shift vehicles, or even ride a Brahmin if you wish lol~

I'm guessing that the game engine doesn't support it? Or maybe it's too time-consuming?

That said, anyone game on making a Ridable Brahmin mod?

Its time consuming.

The carriage rides in Skyrim were originally going to be actual carriage rides instead of fade to black scenes. However, with the way the physics works, among other things, caused them to be horribly buggy, flying all over the place if you hit a rock or something by accident.

Some moddders tried to get them to work, and got them a lot closer, but even those mods have some flaws in them.

The game engine supports it. I use a rideable motorcycle mod in my Fallout 3 games. It works great.

Beth motivated that having vehicles would put restrictions on how they design the games world and so they opted to not include them and focus on a better gameworld.

I have tried the carriage riding mod and OMG it was so good!!
Sure, there are crashes and bugs but wow....i cannot imagine the insane amount of coding that went into it.

Real-time carriage riding definitely needs to be an in-game feature in the next Elder Scrolls game imo.
Imagine wearing an Oculus Rift and passively watch the beautiful world go by.

The world would have to be much larger to accommodate vehicles imo. As it stands, exploration would take a major hit with the size of the world. Skyrim/Fallout 3 for example. If the overworld was around 2-3X larger I could see it working much better. Others would argue that vehicles would not affect the game negatively/reduce exploration.

Ground vehicles can be very restrictive on world design, so they opted to have no ground vehicles. I am ok with this.

Yeah, I've always said that vehicles are literally the last thing I'd ever want in one of Beth's open world Fallout games. It's just not practical in terms of world building and balance.

I'd like a fast travel that incorporates vehicles in it like the Silt Striders in Morrowind, and the gameplay footage of Vertibirds suggests this may be the case. But I certainly hope there aren't any vehicles in the game proper.

How would vehicles work if the roads are [censored]? would you ride around the grass or something?

Dunebuggy!

we get our own private vertibird that we can call and have give us a ride (to where we dont exactly know the limitations of.. perhaps only to major cities) regardless its a vehicle we can call when we need a ride.

I would kill to have a motorcycle in the game. I want to desperately avoid death buggys and other vehicles that will serve to tie the Mad Max parallels closer to the game, but being able to jump on a bike to get between major distances is something they should definitely add with dlc if it isn't in the base game yet by some miracle (I know they said no vehicles, but maybe we are being faked out ha ha). I feel like with horses being in their ES games, a motorcycle would be a somewhat parallel thing to have in the Fallout titles. Especially if the game world is as vast as it supposedly is.

We sort of do have vehicles. There are the vertibirds (which apparently we don't really have control over) and power armor. Yes, power armor is...well...an armor, but I look at it as a vehicle. You crawl into it, it takes damage, and it can (sort of) fly. As for other kinds...I'm crossing my fingers for a Giddyup Buttercup to climb that really steep terrain.

But what's the half life of the dune buggy?

gordon freeman?

My guess is they wanted to avoid rush hour traffic jams so thats why they don't have them

Fallout 2 wasn't a First/thrid person game so it worked, most of the map was empty space to show distance but the modern games have lots of things scattered around and encounters.

I'd also have issue by the current time frame that if there's workable vehicles I'd expect the local powers to have nabbed them and be using them like Vertibirds being used by NCR, BoS and Enclave or the bomber being used by the Boomers.

You also then have issues as people have said on map design, you'd have to abbandon it alot in FO3 and NV you'd laugh as nothing is a threat to you. FO4 looks like quite a few more missile launchers and fatmen so that car/bike will kill you when it explodes...if you survive the first explosion lol.

Beth has got ID to help, they did post apoc vehicles in RAGE and I'd say that was the weakest part of the game. Was rather shallow and boring so I don't want anything like that in FO.

Yeah, most of that world was empty space, to drive between meaningful locations in. (and then get re-used in those racing segments)

I usually don't need any vehicle, I love walking around and explore every single spot that differs from others. But...

...this is an awesome idea. Along with your own house it would be perfect to build a vehicle as well and store it on your property. It should be the only vehicle so you'd never lose the motivation for searching and collecting materials.

The world just doesn't support vehicles TBH...Size wise I mean, don't see the point of going from one end of the map to the other in a minute or so....Just to small.....

Vehicles would be a great feature that I would like to see. We had one in Fallout 2, but it was a bit different. Maybe in a dlc, probably a mod.

As discussed, Fallout 2 was not first or even third person. It was an isometric view and you couldn't even actually drive the car anywhere. The game world was massive, like real life scale. Fallout 2's map was over 750,000 square miles. The individual locations inside the game world weren't all that large, but the game world itself was huge. You had to walk from town to town, which took days, sometimes weeks of game time. The sole purpose of the car was to reduce travel time. Like I said earlier, you couldn't actually drive the car, you would just use it as a map access which would increase your travel speed.

Here's a map of the game world overlaid on top of a real life map of california. http://i.imgur.com/vLk7M.jpgEach little square on the map represents approximately 900 square miles (30x30). The entirety of Fallout 3 takes place is far less space. I couldn't find any specific numbers but I believe I recall way back in the back when times before it came out that TH was boasting about it being something like six square miles. If you pull a real world map and overlay Fallout 3's map over top it will look a lot larger because while Fallout 3 "covered" a fairly large chunk of land, it was compressed and you could walk from the heart of DC into alexandria in less than half an hour, which is not possible irl. Since the old games didn't have open world exploration, their map was to scale and it took realistic timescales to get from one town to another, thus the car was effective.