Whooo first topic,

Anyway, I've been having some trouble getting mods to work, and I've noticed some things going awry. I have limited experience with mods (I lightly modded Oblivion a few years back) but I didn't expect things to be this complex. I'll ask my questions one at a time so as not to confuse myself, and thanks for any and all help. Also of note; I downloaded Morrowind GOTY off of Steam and I'm using Windows 7.

First off, I can download mods fine. I put them in a temporary folder called 'Morrowind Mods' and extract them in there using Winrar. That's when my first problem occurs. When I extract the files I only get a readme and the .esp, no meshes, no textures, no nothing. Is this normal? I don't get pocketknife icons either, but I assume that's because I have Windows 7.

Again, thanks for any help.

What mods are you trying to install? Many mods don't have mesh and texture files, since they use vanilla resources. Thus, they are .esp only. If a mod adds new meshes and textures, then it will have those included. It depends.

And then there are also texture replacer mods that have no .esp. It all depends on what the mod is and what it does.

I tested it wth an armour mod and you're completely right. I initially downloaded a few simple ones, along the lines of summoning bound (Daedric) arrows and an absorb magicka spell, which in hindsight obviously don't need textures or meshes. Thanks, I now know that's not the problem.

The next bump I'd hit would be not having the mods appear in the Data Files menu of the Morrowind start up menu. I'd put the mod in data files in the Morrowind folder , load up Morrowind, check the Data Files section, and only have .esm's and some save games. I assume I'm putting the .esp's in the wrong folder, but I can't for the life of me understand which one I'm supposed to be putting them in. I did read that Steam has a different Data Files folder (Which I've found and tried numerous times), I've attempted putting the .esp in different places with in the folder to no avail. Any ideas?

Also of note, I read a solution for some problems here: http://www.overclock.net/t/528344/solution-for-morrowind-on-steam-not-modding

I attempted to do this, but the redating program I found can't find morrowind.bsa, and says it doesn't exist. I'm going to look more into that too.

Again, thanks for the help.

Esp and esm files, as well as meshes\textures folders should go into Morrowind\Data Files folder.

Here is the path to morrowind:

C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\morrowind\Data Files

If its an ESM or ESP, it goes there. If its a texture or mesh or icon or whatever folder it goes there as well.

Also, you have to redate your BSAs if you use steam.

64 or 32-bit? If it's the former, you should have a Program Files (x86) folder. If you do and Morrowind is installed there, you'll want to move both Steam and Morrowind out of that folder. To do that:

1. Move the SteamApps folder somewhere else, like the root of your C drive (should become C:\SteamApps).
2. Uninstall Steam and delete the C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam folder.
3. Install the Steam client somewhere other than the Program Files (x86) folder (you can download it from Steam if you don't have it). Mine's in E:\Games\Steam.
4. Run it but DO NOT log in. After it starts, close it.
5. Move the SteamApps folder back under the Steam folder.
6. Restart Steam and log in.
7. Run your games to make sure they still work.

After that, try re-installing the mods again and checking them via the game launcher. After you're familiar with installing and running mods, you may want to get Wrye Mash. Yacoby has a stand alone version floating around, look for the Wrye Mash Fork topic. If you've used Wrye Bash for Oblivion, WM is very similar, but it came first so it's not exactly the same.

Thanks, I did exactly that, and I now have Morrowind in C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Morrowind. Unfortunately mods are still not appearing in my Data Files checklist. I put them into the Data Files folder and check, but nothing.




I'm trying to redate them now. Unfortunately, Set Date 2.0 tells me that Morrowind.bsa cannot be found. I've tried several different file paths and folders, and have searched for Morrowind.bsa both automatically and manually, but still nothing. I'll keep looking the mean time, and thanks for all the replies and help.

The bsa files should be in the Morrowind\Data files folder. Set Date may need to run as admin for it to find the files it's looking for. Speaking of which, Morrowind's launcher may need to run as admin as well as Morrowind.exe for your mods to show. I also run both of mine in XP SP 3 compatibility mode.

Yeah, I've looked thoroughly through out the folder but can't find them, and I'm running administrator. Interestingly, when I set Set Date to redate the entire Morrowind folder it got caught up on about 5 unspecified folders saying they could not be found. I assume they are the ones I'm looking for, but I have no idea where they've gone, and Morrowind works fine. I've even disabled hidden folders just in case but still nothing. Any suggestions?

Can you post a screenshot of your data file folder? When you say you install the mod there, make sure you don't accidentally extract it in a way that you have a data folder inside the data folder (it's happened to me far too many times), and that the esp of the mod is alongside the existing Morrowind esps. Also, I believe the latest version of the Morrowind Code Patch (MCP) automatically redates the files if you're using steam, so I'd look into that as well.

Well I've got another problem, one I'm furiously embarassed about. The first mod I downloaded was MGE because it said you should install that before any other mods, needless to say that didn't go to plan. I ignored the problem and thought I'd come back to that later, trying a couple of other mods. So I had lots of remnants of MGE in my Data Files folder and I (being a noob) eventually decided to wipe any trace of Morrowind from my computer and start over with a clean slate. I manually deleted the files and reinstalled Morrowind, but now I have no idea where the Morrowind folder is, as it didn't appear in program files or the Steam folder. Morrowind still plays so the files are on my computer somewhere, but I have no idea where... and I feel really stupid. Any advice as to where they could be?

Also, as I'm slowly unravelling the mess I made I'm beginning to see what the problem is. I DID have a second Data Files folder and throughout my modding escapades I didn't see the .esp's once, other than in the data files checkbox in Morrowind's main menu. Still, one problem at a time if I'm going to have any chance of sorting this out, so I'm going to keep searching for my Morrowind files.

Try a search via Windows' search feature for "Morrowind" or "Data Files", being certain to make sure you are searching for folders, and being sure you are searching all drives, if you have more than one. I have XP, so I'm not quite sure how you do that for Windows 7; I'm told you go to Start, and then use the Search panel at the bottom. That should in theory bring up the paths for your current installation, as well as any other installations you have floating around. If you had a second Data Files folder, it's possible not everything was actually deleted when you did a manual uninstall. Only trick is, if the folder is hidden, the search won't find it, so you'll need to be sure that the most likely folders in your profile, as well as on Steam, are all unhidden.

Morrowind isn't in the Steam\SteamApps\common\ folder somewhere?

*Sigh of relief*

First off, thanks for the help guys, I was about to give up and let Morrowind stew in my hard drives game graveyard. After a lot of fiddling about I've managed to get everything where it needs to go, and whatever the automatic installation of MGE did has been fixed, I have the esp's, ini's, and all the data files where they need to be, and I should be able to install mods now. The last hurdle is I'm trying to get over is installing Steam where Jac suggested. I'm trying to move the Steamapps folder onto the desktop, so I can then put it back in the Steam folder once I've reinstalled Steam somewhere other than Program files (86x). However, when I try to move the Steamapps folder I have a pop up tell me that it cannot be moved, because a folder or file in it is in use in another program.

I'm not sure what this means, but I'll be looking into it. Are there any suggestions as to what the problem is? Duplicate folders perhaps?

Regardless ,yet again, thanks for all your help. This place is much better than the Gamefaqs boards, lol.

Is Steam set to run when you turn on the PC? If so, check the tray on the bottom right corner of your screen and find the Steam icon. Right click on that and select exit. Then try moving the files.

Right again.

It's finally working! I know it's getting redundant but once again, thank you to everyone who's posted. It seemed like an unsolvable problem but thanks to you all, it wasn't. I'll be off now as I have mods to (cautiously) install, and rest assured, you've all made one very happy Morrowind player.

I met my wife because of Morrowind so it has a special place in my heart. If I'm able to help someone else enjoy the game, then I'm very happy. I'm glad our suggestions worked for you and that you're well on your way to enjoying the game as it was meant to be enjoyed. Now go find some good mods and get lost for awhile.

I'm back!

I was hoping to let this topic die, but I have another question.

I downloaded a mod called Cult of the Clouds, which adds some new items, a faction, quests, NPC's, and spells. Unzipped and moved the esp, meshes and textures folders where they go, but it also had an icons folder, and I don't have a Morrowind Icons folder in my Data Files. I searched for it, and I'll search some more, but I find it odd that everything is where it should be except for this one Icons folder. Is it somewhere else or what?

And Jac, I'm sure the story of you and your wife is a very intrigueing one. I knew games could bring people together...but I had no idea it could be that much

Just paste the Icons folder into Data Files.

Just to expand on that; if you don't have an icons folder, it probably is simply because you don't yet have a mod that adds new icons to the game. As long as the Icons folder is in the Data Files folder (same as your Meshes, Textures, Sounds, etc) you should be fine. You'll know there is a problem if an object in your inventory shows up as a white square box with a yellow smiley face crossed out in a red slash (like a No Smoking sign here in the US). I know that sounds really wierd, but trust me, it'll make senes if you see it.

Thanks, seems obvious now.

Unfortunately when I check it in Data Files and load up Morrowind it says a plugin can't find the esm needed to work. It didn't say anything in the read me but in the summary it says:

"Morrowind.esm is required for this file to be loaded, and it has changed since this file was last saved. You might experience problems with the game."

Oddly, the warning message also comes up when I try to use a mod named 'Blank Enchantable Scrolls', which as the name suggests adds blank enchantable scrolls. I read that levelled loot lists can be a problem, and blank enchantable scrolls adds exactly that to random loot. Could that be the problem? I'm uncertain whether or not Cult of the Clouds adds anything to levelled lists so I'll have to chase that up.

I'm going to take another stab in the dark and say it may something to do with Steam and my esm's being dated to around 2011, I remember hearing that could be a problem, but the 4 mods I've put on before I've attempted the last 2 work fine.

I can say for certain that it's not related to my data files folder or the way I'm placing files in them, because I just tried the official Adamantium Armour plug in and that worked fine.

So in short, I have no idea what the problem is. If some one could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated, I'm gonna look into this levelled loot business and see if anything comes of that...and hope for the best

That particular error is caused when the mod author uses a different version of the master file (Morrowind.esm in this case). It's nothing to worry about, but there are two ways to fix it. The first will re-date your mod, which isn't always a good thing. All you have to do is open the mod in the CS, which, since you're using Steam, you probably don't have.

The second way is to use Wryemash to update the mod to the version of the master file(s) you have.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1331996-yacobys-wrye-mash-fork/

Thanks, it seems so simple, if only I wasn't a PC noob and I could understand what all that jargon meant.

I know my free help cards are running out, but I've come across another problem while trying to get some new playable heads in the game. I put all the files in their folders, check Wryemash, it's all green and says it's good to go, but when I start a new game and go to choose my character, as soon as I get to where the new heads should appear in the window I get a message, but due to the head in the way I can't read it. It goes along the lines of:

'--ad access files from
(Some file name like Emma/nif8)
(The file name again and something before it I can't read)
Would you lke to continue running executable?
Yes No'

It doesn't matter which I pick Morrowind turns off anyway. This is the second head replacer mod I've tried and it's been the same problem. Her (Emma's) website didn't say anything about needing MGE or anything, and neither did the read me, so I'm all blank.

I know this is vague, and probably not helpful, but as always, any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.

From the sounds of it, Emma's head meshes (the .nif files) can't find their corresponding textures. Make sure you've extracted the archive properly and put everything where it's supposed to go.

Does the head show up properly? Meaning, the head is actually there, and you can see all the features and everything?

As for the message, you can check your error log to see the entire thing out of game. In your Morrowind folder (NOT your Data Files folder) you should see the file Warnings.txt. It's just an ordniary text document; if you open it up, it should have all the errors from your last play session. You should be able to find the one that crashed your game there.