I hope its in too, but judging from the screens, it looks like the same static clothing from Oblivion.

My only problem with this is that, unless the game informer screenshots are outdated, it seems as if Beth isn't really employing layers into their armor system. I would AT LEAST like a belt or something to hold my weapons (Red Dead did something similar to this). Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed with this.

Various reasons:

1) if they tell you everything that WON'T be in, people know everything that WILL be in by process of elimination.
2) Some things they are still working on. It's possible many things are under development that might be cut if they affect performance too much or don't get finished, better to just keep silent on these things until you know whether they will or won't be in.

I honestly don't see why they would choose against this to be in the game. From the sounds of it it's not something that takes a lot of coding to do, so maybe they can add it from now til the November? From what I took from it it's just another part of Havok's technology, like Behavior, that basically does all the work generating realistic movements of the clothes with little codework involved...

I hope they include this. Could be another step forward in immersive gameplay. Without it I'll still play the game but why take one step forward with Behavior and then stop? Go all the way.

I agree on that on the Havok Cloth' ballet video, but not on the ogre' one. It's clothes just looks fantastic.

Yeah. Havok has been a good physics engine for a while but it's pretty outdated now. One way you knew a game had the Havok engine is when you disturbed an object on a table, all the other objects on the table would twitch. Hopefully Skyrim will have a more updated version of the Havok engine.

There is a screenshot of the Nord Barbarian in the GI issue that there is some kind of piece of loin cloth or something hanging from his rear end and it seems to be curving with the wind.

So I think that it is in. But I'll remain very skeptical as it being on every single item of clothing... That would cause MASSIVE frame rate issues if the cities are densely populated.

It's highly possible its included. I just hope they have it as an isolated graphics option so it can be turned off or set to player only if it takes too much of a toll on performance.

No. he meant we because you dont know either.

I REALLY hope they put some kind of cloth physics into the game. I know many of us have been pining for them ever since Morrowind came out.

Heck, just look how many cape mods have been downloaded WITHOUT any physics. Having a flowing cape or robe would really add to immersion.

I actually think I'll be massively disappointed if some kind of clothing and hair movement is not included - we have dynamic snow! Tree branches that move with the wind to a vitreous degree depending on the weather! And joust how dumb would a character look standing in a snow storm with show flying around, tree branches cracking and his/her robe and hair not being affected in the slightest???
It bothered me in Oblivion already, but the better the overall graphics the better thous "outdated" character looks are visible by contrast, so in Skyrim it would be just... Gah!
I woun't mind if they just add animation bones for clothing and hair, if that's what it takes to improve the performance I'm fine with it, but some kind of effort has to be maid at this point, or they are plain lazy.

How do we know they aren't working on their own version of fluid cloth motion? Maybe they haven't announced anything because they're still figuring it out or it's causing performance issues. Maybe they are planning on using Havok Cloth, or maybe they'll resign to only if they have to, or maybe they're just trying to implement it now or plan to soon but don't have it in yet.

So many unknowns--not just for us, but probably for them, too.

I just think that with how good the barmaid's clothing looked in the GI magazine screen shot, it would be silly of them to have the clothes look stiff and be motionless, and that they realize that and will try to do their best to make it look like a part of real life (and subject to the laws of physics).

We have to trust them, and should figure that if something like Havok Cloth can't be implemented into the game, then they must have a good reason for that.

I think the simulation complexity has to be tuneable indeed and have a low setting of off individually for clothes and maybe separately for the player only.
I'f you have a robe or something, it would be interesting to have a low setting to react a little to your movement. Nothing too fancy like waving or folding in realistic fashion but at least have a basic movement.
Because even if the full simulation is too taxing, no one will want to turn it COMPLETELY off with such technology available there.

Tail physics.