We're approximately at one month before Skyrim's release. We still haven't seen any confirmed PS3 or PC screenshots or footage, still only 360 footage, we already know they're going for timed DLC exclusivity deals with Microsoft, they haven't demod the PS3 or supposedly the PC version even once at any of these conventions (including the ones where fans got to try the game out for 15-20 minutes), we have no reviews of the PS3 version and possibly not even the PC version and no reference for how they technically look and run, we already know the 360 is the lead platform and the other versions practically ports, nothing Skyrim-related is coming onto the PSN, any given Bethesda staff member won't even acknowledge the lack of PS3/PC footage and/or the possibility of seeing either before release... or from them, at all. Just today, I found out that the speedruns were exclusively held on the 360 and Bethesda released the list of 360 achievements... but didn't even so much as mention the PS3's trophies and I'm not sure of anything pertaining to Steam achievements.

Arguably, some of these things are minor and even unimportant, depending on the specific subjective view, but my point is more about what, together, they represent and more about the principle of much of it. This game isn't coming across as multiplatform, it's coming across as a 360-exclusive. I... my head's throbbing, but I've reached an all-time peak of frustration when I should be celebrating the game's upcoming release... but I can't because I don't even feel like Bethesda considers anyone playing on my platform or the PC in any of their marketing decisions and few of their technical decisions. They won't show anything pertaining to the other versions and it's really upsetting me. What is this? How much longer do we need to wait? Why is everything relayed the public about the 360 version? This is simply an inexcusable failure on the part of Bethesda's marketing team. They aren't addressing their fans on 2/3 of their supposedly supported platforms. Following what they dared to do with Fallout 3's PS3 DLC (delay, release as technical mess, never acknowledge or patch it) and I just have very little faith in their technical motivation to actually give a crap about something other than the 360 version nor am I getting the message from the marketing that this is a multiplatform game... just a 360 game quickly and haphazardly ported over to the other platforms in an attempt to grab money. What gives?

Welcome to the video game industry.

we have seen a PC screenshot we just dont know which one it is
and microsoft is paying them just to show xbox footage

Microsoft paid them
Plus its the console they favor the most
They still release mod tools for PC owners
It's just the PS3 owners who get screwed over...
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Notice the specific diction I used:

As someone who's gonna buy it for PS3, I honestly don't care that much about the 360 market priority. I think they aren't showing that much because it's just gonna look similar. Of course the PC will have inherent abilities to enhance the visual experience. They don't really have a reason to show gameplay when it looks similar.

Beth hates console wars, so they don't say which footage or screens are from what platform so we may have seen PS3 Screens, We have seen a PC screen
Yeah, the DLC is exclusive for Microsoft because nobody Sony or anyone else didn't want DLC early, But Microsoft did.
Xbox exclusive game? Its funny, wasn't it Beth who said that the PC version would look amazingly better than the Console versions? Remember that buddy?
I'm assuming that you play on PC, so DLC shouldn't really matter for you, seeing as we will have Thousands of mods, and if your on PS3? Don't blame Beth, blame Sony.

I should blame Sony for Bethesda's hack-job of a PS3-ported Fallout 3 DLC that didn't receive a passing glance from Bethesda? I'd almost think that was just illegal and/or completely immoral and pathetic on Bethesda's part. If Bethesda hates console wars, it's pretty hypocritical, counter-intuitive, and outright nonsensical to show such strong favor for one platform over another. The person that truly hates "console wars" should strive to treat members of all their platforms equally. It's the person that has something to hide and doesn't want said something to be revealed or the person making excuses that says they don't like "console wars" hence they only show and do everything on one platform.

it has been confirmed though we just dont know which one it is

No... it hasn't been confirmed which one it is... or how many, but we do know which of at least some are from the 360 version. We have seen confirmed 360 footage. My point is that nothing on which ones... or perhaps even one, are from the PS3 or PC. That is what I meant.

Ah we should believe the word of someone trying to sell a product and ignore the hard evidence i.e no PS3/PC footage. Who is meant to pay off Bethesda to show PC footage then huh?

Ok so there's two explanations for this. First, Microsoft is paying them. Also, 360 is the crappiest platform. If they were to show ps3/pc footage or screens, xbox players would be very disappointed. It's that simple.

All in all? Im still playing Oblivion and that has crap graphics. will it really matter in the long run?

Well, Bethesda is a sell out.Welcome to the wonderful world of Disne...*coughs*.... profits.

Will it matter if Skyrim crashes and freezes with the enormous amount of bugs Fallout 3, particularly post-DLC, had with a poor framerate and/or graphics falling short of what the PS3 should be outputting? Yes, it is a big deal. It's also a big deal that they won't even show the PS3 or the PC version, for that matter, at all or even refer to them all that often... regardless of how well they look and run. It's a big deal if consumers are willing to roll over and take such treatment or gladly and happily pay a full $60 for a poor excuse of a technical job all while thanking and praising the creators for the work. That is a problem. It indicates a failure on the part of the programmers to do their job and the lack of consumer information a failure of the PR department to do theirs. It's a big deal. I only ask to see some footage or screenshots or something of my version. That they're incapable of doing that or acknowledging any of their shortcomings, both of the past and the present, is a big deal.

i snip'ed your comment cause was big

but yeah i agree 100% with this thread and op
i only got a PC here and i am scared ... yes ...

more than likely the PC one is http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/media/screenshots/mountains-skyrim/ because that is under screenshots and I dont think an xbox can do that

Todd has said before that the PS3 and PC will run better resolutions, so they're only demoing 360. That way nobody gets the game and says, "Wow, it looked better at E3, on the demo, etc."

Plus, and I'm not an expert, the forums seem to show more 360 players that PS3 so that might be why they haven't said anything about it.

My big problem is mostly for the timeframe. I've been waiting, albeit irritated, calmly up until now with only the fleeting questioning of what they're doing, but by this point, they should actually be advertising their product to those not on a 360. We should be seeing our versions, already, and getting some form of acknowledgement. There's only a month left to go. If Microsoft is willing to pay enough to detain Bethesda from showing anything of the other two versions or even really acknowledging them to make the loss of sales and pre-orders for said platforms worth it for Bethesda, then Microsoft has their money-spending priorities screwed up... or they're highly sadistic. I'm not going to flock to their platform because of this. Few of us will. All they're doing is subjecting us to unfair torture... of course I say this as die-hard fan of the series from Arena upward and even to Fallout 3, but yes, I find this torturous. I can't stand it anymore.

your right ... they need time for shiping the pre-orders that come from advertising ...
this is true

I feel like Skyrim is an Xbox / PC game that will kinda also work on the PS3.

I could be wrong, but based on what we've seen from the PS3 version (I.e. nothing) I have no reason to do anything but assume the worst.

It's like those baby toys where you put the shapes into a box.

They've got a box with 3 holes, a circle, a square, and a triangle.

But the blocks they have are all squares.

Edit: I shouldn't feel this way this close to release... Not good Beth... Not good.

altho i do remember filling alot of questionares over the past 2 years that i allways answered the question

Q: why do you buy a game?

a) magizine previews

B) t.v. advertising

c) word of mouth


i allways choose

c) word of mouth

mayb thier testing the "word of mouth" choice to see if people advertise better than the other advertisers?

Actually, he only said that about the PC version. I don't believe there has been any mention of the PS3 version at all except in tangent of (paraphrasing here) "All versions will run the same, with the PC being better if you have the proper rig, obviously."

I guess we PC players will just have to wait for the release date to actually see some footage of our platform >.>'.

Welcome to big business and the money game.


Microsoft/Sony do not care about people, they care about money.

Microsoft has the financial power to do this, and forsees this as rewarding in the long term.