And whats that meant to mean exactly?

He's saying you should never be afraid to post questions in this forum, and that anyone who would deride your questions is being nonconstructive.

Must applaud for answers questioned by Don't forget this and Hellmouth! And to Magico for asking such questions in that way, it's easier to answer small limited questions, even if in great quantity. Opposed to questions like "Tell me all about TES there is to know. Please?".

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I admit i wouldn't ever even dreamed to ask. I'm more about finding enlightenment on my own... Which is my problem. Now, back to rotgut.

Some more questions for you guys to answer:
In Dragon Break Study http://www.imperial-library.info/content/dragon-break-study it was written:
"When will you wake up and realize what _really_ happened to the Dwarves?"

But there was no anolysis except of telling that it's infamous xD

So what did happen to the Dwarves then? They got stuck in a time warp? Or what?
And who is Hans the Fox?

Also how could it be Talos had so many names? I mean I know Mantling etc. and all, but was that process of naming him in so many names why he was mantled? And how can the Underking be him? or Ysmir? or Arctus (right? also in Where were you when the Dragon broke the author wrote: "I know who you are" after talking about different aspects of Lorkhan, if aspect is the right name) if he wasn't them?

Can anyone explain The Egg of Time to me as well? Who is the Vitruvian Man above the heart? (Lorkhan?) Is that how to destroy his heart?
And why is it called the Egg of Time?

Why activating Numidium (Either Tiber or in Daggerfall) caused a milder Dragon Break than the 1008 Years one?

"To the Dwemer and Oblivion belong this treasure and they are there dead." From Sermon 0 anolysis, What treasure? and how can Oblivion be dead?

and

"White Gold netch merchants Cherim Muzariah" and "The Fourth Secret Message is found in the thrice-secret word. The capital letters form a Vigenere cipher which requires the name 'Vivec' as its key:"?

and "Here the true key lies. Vivec is the lesser or false key.
For in the beginning was the Word: Spoken by a Great Ape.
For in the beginning was the Word: Three by Seventy-two.
For in the beginning was the Word: ALMSIVI."
What does that mean? false key?

And why didn't Vivec commit any crime? Unless his godhood was planned by someone (Lorkhan?), just like the Amulet of Kings breaking is another plan for Alduin to be unleashed (that theory you were talking about in another thread in this forum [page 1])?

And still with Sermon 0:
"It shows the White Tower, a dragon spirals around it, a moth priest at the top. Very famous moment, but few men remember" one of Cherim's tapestry things, what moment is that? (I know there are some records of people "dancing" on a tower, like those who started the 1008 Years Dragon Break, but I'm sure they didn't mean the White Tower, but a Tower (The Tower talked about in ...The Tower, whatever a Tower really means. that text was super confusing anyway!)

It was a joke. Us followers of Chaos do joke around occasionally, despite what the empire's propaganda saying we don't.

No problem...i had a feeling you were joking,just wasn't 100% sure....i just mis-read it....sorry dude.

Which Emperor..heh...if http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6w2SHxRUHb8/TS3o2E9tjVI/AAAAAAAAAQg/2Ba8ejYBWJY/s1600/The-God-Emperor-Can%2527t-be-Wr.jpg were Tiber Septim, the Aldmeri Dominion would be screwed beyond all belief. The ghosts of the ghosts of their ghosts would be ripped to shreds by his Psychic powers.

Naw, he's a vegetable right now.

Screw the Emperor and Screw Chaos! I'm a Bug Lover!

Anyone minding answering the questions?

They're dead.


A Shezarrine of the northern kingdoms. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4693325035_597cd4f9da.jpg.


http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1173308-tiber-septims-birthplace/.


The Universe is layered like an egg, and the Time God is the king of the universe. Egg of Time. The Vitruvian man is just a dwarf.


The kings of the Iliac didn't channel the Aurbis to change Akatosh. That was not their intent. Instead, they used Numidium to win pieces of the ground. Until Kirkbride, the Numidium was still a siege golem.

Sermon 0 is unimportant.

But there was still a Dragon Break with Numidium, no? That's because they didn't change Akatosh just, as Hellmouth said before: "The power of the Numidium is so great, it often will kick the god of time in the balls and shoot him the bird while smoking. "? Right?

About Talos, yea I know there was CHIM, Mantling and the rest, but they were different people, so what sort of Magic are you talking about?

Breaking the dragon means breaking time. The events that happened in Illiac Bay was a dragon break, because time broke, and in order for it to be rectified the Jills mended Akatosh, so that multiple Numidiums appeared.

So in order to fix time he caused all these Numidiums to happen?

It was such a magnitude of force it caused it to happen quickly?
Not like the 1008 Years Dragon Break right? and that's also because they channelled the Aurbis, so it took the Jills more time right?

BTW you think they'll call them Dragons or Jills in Skyrim? xD (as well as when you pass your mouse over them )

Jills are female dragons

Ehh... "jill" is a term for female Dragons, but i'll bet money that not all "Jills" of Akatosh are female and that most "jills" as in non-aedric female dragons aren't menders on time.

Wait. You asked why there was a difference in time; why did one last 1008 years. I told you why; the entire Aurbis was being channeled, reborn to fit the reality of the Selectives' new Akatosh.* And it may not have lasted 1008 years, at all. That was the sum the Elder Council decided upon. You should read the source, Where were you when the Dragon Broke. Be sure to read the complete version. There are two, you want to read the complete version.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1173308-tiber-septims-birthplace/page__view__findpost__p__17317376.


*Numidium may be capable of bending reality around it, but it was not used to its capacity, in Daggerfall.

The Magic of stories.

Thanks again for the answers everyone!
SO about the Dragons, not all dragons are necessarily Jills then right? But since Alduin comes back in TES V I'll guess he would bring Jills with him and not Dragons as all Dragons died in Akavir, so the only Dragon-like entity that could come to Tamriel would be the Jills, no?

Akavir isn't the only place that had dragons. Tamriel has had dragons, too. I don't think these dragons are Jills since they are going to be normal (if powerful) creatures. Also, the Jills are time-menders, and as far as I know, time isn't currently broken. Though we don't know for sure exactly what's going on, yet. We'l have to wait until Skyrim is released to get the info.

Personally, I hope the dragons are "normal" flesh-and-blood creatures, like they've been depicted before (Nafaalilargus, and the remains in Battlespire). We've already had plenty of run-ins with gods and demi-gods, and Alduin is seemingly next on the agenda, so IMO, the best way to have the dragons inspire the awe they deserve would be for them to be highly intelligent and fearsome mortal creatures in their own right. Something that can cut humans and elves down to size, but aren't driven by some divine mission and haven't haxxed Mundus. That they just are big and powerful, without any divine right.

A few more questions:
Where is Talos? I mean we have the 8 planet()s of the main Aedra surrounding Nirn, where would Talos be then? Is he in Aetherius? Did he just pass through the Dreamsleeve without Incarnation?
Was he just born as Talos? or did he just appear somewhere as Talos at a specific age?

And since he mantled Akatosh/Lorkhan, doesn't he in a way also a God of Time? Doesn't he also need to be mended when the dragon breaks?

Last but not least, is it possible to visit the plane(t)s of the Aedra just like it's possible to visit the realms of the Daedric Princes? Or are the Aedras the plane(t)s themselves, therefore impossible?

Yes and no.

That's a very specific answer ^_^

Try Nirn; he's mantled the place of Lorkhan. He's the hub of the Wheel, and the Wheel is the Aurbis.


Yes, in the sense a puppeteer is one with his puppets.

It should be possible to visit the Aedra planets, and I'm sure people have. Nirn is impossible, too.

So Talos became Nirn? So Nirn is the plane(t) of Lorkhan, how couldn't I think about that!

The puppeteer being Akatosh/Lorkhan and his puppets all of those who mantled him/them/it, right?
In another thread they wrote that it's only possible to mantle the two? Why is that?

I take it there are no accounts for people visiting those planets?

And you talked about the Wheel, and the Wheel being the Aurbis, in another http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1167860-akaviri-myth-conjecture/someone talked about the Tsaesci being the wheel: Why is that?
Are they connected with the First Serpant http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-monomyth-yokudan-satakal-worldskin? (That is, Padomay/ etc./ etc.)?

TES-ian lore is absolutely the most difficult I ever encountered... Some parts of it are just so hard to understand..

No, the puppeteer in the anology is Talos.


None come to mind, have you looked?

They wanted to talk about stuff besides chim and dragons. The Wheel is symbolic of the universe, and millions of snakes praying together while facing an imagined center, is cool.