So I read my first four or so stories today, and I already have so many questions O=
You are welcome to answer as many as you like, just make sure you quote them, I'll make sure I'll cross 'em out after they were answered, though you are still welcome to discuss if you think one answer is wrong or arguable but don't take it to a whole new level of 5 pages of arguing which answer is better.

So:

Why is Nirn called the Gray-Maybe?

How were the Aldmers created? How were the humans and other races created? Dragons?

What about the Hist? - The Altmer's story talked about Humans and Beast and Elves, not the trees :S

Why were they created in this sort of way (if don't understand) and why in this order?

In the Monomith it's written:
"One of the strongest of these, a barely formed urge that the others call Lorkhan, details a plan to create Mundus, the Mortal Plane.
Humans, with the exception of the Redguards, see this act as a divine mercy, an enlightenment whereby lesser creatures can reach immortality. Aldmer, with the exception of the Dark Elves, see this act as a cruel deception, a trick that sundered their connection to the spirit plane."

Just to make sure I understand this clearly: Humans were created after Mundus was created right? The tense kinda confuses me.

The Yokudan, "Satakal the Worldskin"
So Padomay came first but he was so big he just filled the whole of ____ (what exactly? Universe? Aetharius?)
SO Then Anu came (how did he come? born? etc.?)
"Soon there was enough room to live in the worlds and things began." What begone?
"These things were new and they often made mistakes, for there was hardly time to practice being things before." What are these?
"when things realized this pattern so did they realize what their part in it was. They began to take names, like Ruptga or Tuwhacca" So how can "things" become Gods etc.?
"Ruptga was so big that he was able to place the stars in the sky so that weaker spirits might find their way easier." Wasn't it the Magna Ge running away from Mundus?
"And they found that it was too far to jump into the Far Shores now" - Far Shores is Aetherius?
Sep - "ep could only slink around in a dead skin, or swim about in the sky, a hungry void that jealously tried to eat the stars" Isn't it Akatosh's job?

Shezzar's Song:
"These Aedra, the Gods of the Aldmer, led by Auri-El", "These Aedra, the Gods of Men and Beast Folk, led by Akatosh" What does it mean exactly? Aren't all the gods the same? Akatosh is Auriel, Shezarr is Sep and Lorkhan etc., no?


"It gives the Daedra Lords special pleasure to steal away from Shezarr and the Aedra the greatest and most ambitious mortals." Does it mean like the Hero of Cyrodiil becoming Sheogorath? That counts as stealing?

Altmeri "The Heart of the World" -
So Anu was first and he created Anuiel, which was opposite of Sithis (Padomay, no?), Aren't Anu and Sithis opposites?

"As he entered every aspect of Anuiel, Lorkhan..." - Every aspect of Anuiel? Is that like multiple dimensions? Or parallel worlds?

How is Mundus the House of Sithis? Weren't the Aedra they who build Mundus? Or is it because Lorkhan was a Daedra - Padomay's creation?

So the Aldmer are basically a very late generation of the Aedra right?
"Lorkhan made armies out of the weakest souls and named them Men, and they brought Sithis into every quarter."

"Auriel pleaded with Anu to take them back, but he had already filled their places with something else." - That's like the "spirits" pleading with Tall Papa (Ruptga) to take them back to Aetherius right? It's unbelievable how different yet similar those stories are xD And what did Anu replace them with?

"But his soul was gentler and granted Auriel his Bow and Shield, so that he might save the Aldmer from the hordes of Men" - Firstly, Isn't he a dragon? xD How can he have a bow and a shield? and isn't Akatosh/Auriel with menkind? or was it only when the Amulet of King formed?


""But when Trinimac and Auriel tried to destroy the Heart of Lorkhan it laughed at them. It said, "This Heart is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other." So Auriel fastened the thing to an arrow and let it fly long into the sea, where no aspect of the new world may ever find it."" - Wasn't it in Morrowind? And what the heck do aspects mean in this context? The races?
Trinimac was Aldmeri right? hence the Orcs being created by him being eaten right?

Other questions:
Ideal Masters - Who are they? How could they get a realm of themselves if they are not Daedra or godly etc.

and how could Mehrunes Dagon write the Mysterium Xarxes O= He's huge! xD

What does it mean when it's said that for example "Arkay was one of the very first spirits to "crystallize" after the start of time"?

More =_=:
The Annotated Anuad:
So Nir became creation? Creating what exactly?

Hasn't time began when Akatosh was created?

Anu hid himself in the sun? Wasn't the sun created by Magnus?


What were the twelve worlds of creation?


Didn't the Aedra create Nirn? Not Anu?

More of Other Questions:
How is it possible The Battle of Duncreigh Bridge took place in 1E 1427? It was in the middle of the Dragon Break?

Also, in Dragon Break the time just freezes right? Does it mean that everything is still going on but the sun never sets etc. or does it mean that everything is just in Stasis mode, and then a 1008 years later everything just continues, feeling like nothing happened? How did they know it took 1008 years? What really happens when the "Dragon Breaks"?

I didn't understand The Warp in the West... So there were 44 City States and out of these 35 were just destroyed? or what? and How could it be that in 2 days it all happens? And how could " Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, Orsinium, and the Emperor all gained control of this artifact and used it to consolidate their political powers, somehow at the same exact time"?

So the Aurbis is where Padomay is? (It was said that Anu threw Padomay out of time, or does Aurbis have time as well?)

What are the Void, the un-Void and the Outer Realms eaxctly?

Why isn't the Serpent "guarded" and why does he "threaten" other stars? Is that Sithis/Padomay etc.?

What is Nu-Mantia?

What is the void of Padomay? Is that where Padomay was thrown out of time into?

What are spheres?

About Gods: are there really only 8 Aedra and 17 Daedra Princes? There are many Gods in other race's pantheons that don't have other names in other race's pantheons like the Red Guard's Onsi or the Nordic Orkey etc.?
I know Alessia combined all the beliefs into one but how did hse know there were these amount of gods? I'll understand if for other gods like Akatosh which has so many names, there are multiple personalities, that is, he is a World Eater for breakfast, a God of Time for lunch and a King of Cats for dinner, but what about the Yokudan HoonDing or Leki? or Kyne? etc.

And how did they know their universe is built as it is?


In this thread: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1172097-skyrim-concept-art/ He says that Reman (Reman Cyrodiil, right?) is Lorkhan? Why and how?

Let the headaches commence ;P

Why is Nirn called the Gray-Maybe?
Mundas in General, not just Nirn. It is grey becuase it is where Padomay – black, empty space in the metaphore – meets Anu – White in the metaphor. When IS meets IS NOT you get SOMETIMES IS, or maybe. So it's the grey maybe.

How were the Aldmers created? How were the humans and other races created? Dragons?
THere were a lot more Aedra than the 8+1. A few of them degenerated into Ehlnofey, which make up most trees, animals, and people. The Aldmer where Ehlnofey that kept their god-traditions and wanted to become gods again, the first men loved being mortal and made new traditions. Argonians aren't descended from Ehlnofey, but rather Hist. Dragon origin is unknow, but i'll speculate that they are lesser Aedric servants of Alduin

What about the Hist? - The Altmer's story talked about Humans and Beast and Elves, not the trees :S
The hist are giant tree-people that degenerated into the Argonians and –in some accounts – the Kothrigi

Why were they created in this sort of way (if don't understand) and why in this order?

Why did evolution give us dinosaurs before humans?

In the Monomith it's written:
"One of the strongest of these, a barely formed urge that the others call Lorkhan, details a plan to create Mundus, the Mortal Plane.
Humans, with the exception of the Redguards, see this act as a divine mercy, an enlightenment whereby lesser creatures can reach immortality. Aldmer, with the exception of the Dark Elves, see this act as a cruel deception, a trick that sundered their connection to the spirit plane."

Just to make sure I understand this clearly: Humans were created after Mundus was created right? The tense kinda confuses me.

Humans were made after, yes. But they know what happen and some of them work to alter it.

The Yokudan, "Satakal the Worldskin"
So Padomay came first but he was so big he just filled the whole of ____ (what exactly? Universe? Aetharius?)
SO Then Anu came (how did he come? born? etc.?)
They are the 2 half's of the Godhead's dream. They are everything and nothing, together making everything (with an added demention)

"Soon there was enough room to live in the worlds and things began." What begone?
Time and space. The forces of Anu and Padhome 'gave birth' i guess to Akatosh and Shezzar – time and space respectively.

"These things were new and they often made mistakes, for there was hardly time to practice being things before." What are these?
"when things realized this pattern so did they realize what their part in it was. They began to take names, like Ruptga or Tuwhacca" So how can "things" become Gods etc.?
Et'ada. God's. Really Ideas that became alive, ad Akatosh and Shezzar had become alive from the ideas of Anu and Padomay


"Ruptga was so big that he was able to place the stars in the sky so that weaker spirits might find their way easier." Wasn't it the Magne Ge running away from Mundus?
Why do you think they fled Mundas?

"And they found that it was too far to jump into the Far Shores now" - Far Shores is Aetherius?
Magnus and his buddies could escape because they did so immediately. The Aedra that are still alive are too weakened to escape because they had to give part of themselves to Mundas.

Sep - "ep could only slink around in a dead skin, or swim about in the sky, a hungry void that jealously tried to eat the stars" Isn't it Akatosh's job?
Sep is somewhat Akatosh, somewhat Shor, and really is –in my opinion – their god of the enantiomorph

Shezzar's Song:
"These Aedra, the Gods of the Aldmer, led by Auri-El", "These Aedra, the Gods of Men and Beast Folk, led by Akatosh" What does it mean exactly? Aren't all the gods the same? Akatosh is Auriel, Shezarr is Sep and Lorkhan etc., no?
Each Culture has it's own names for it's set of dieties, but there are 8 planen(et)s in Mundas and 16 in Oblivion, as has been confirmed by Imperial mananaughts and Altmeri Sunbirds.

"It gives the Daedra Lords special pleasure to steal away from Shezarr and the Aedra the greatest and most ambitious mortals." Does it mean like the Hero of Cyrodiil becoming Sheogorath? That counts as stealing?

The idea that great men and mer join daedric cults and destroy themselves pleases the Daedra becuase it ruins their rival's creations.

Altmeri "The Heart of the World" -
So Anu was first and he created Anuiel, which was opposite of Sithis (Padomay, no?), Aren't Anu and Sithis opposites?
Sithis is the stage inbetween padomay and Shor. Padomay is "IS NOT" and change, and Anu IS and statis. to make IS NOT and CHANGE go togethere, 2 ideas were needed before one god could make that his sphere.

"As he entered every aspect of Anuiel, Lorkhan..." - Every aspect of Anuiel? Is that like multiple dimensions? Or parallel worlds?
COULD YOU EXPLAIN THIS QUESTION?

How is Mundus the House of Sithis? Weren't the Aedra they who build Mundus? Or is it because Lorkhan was a Daedra - Padomay's creation?
Lorkhan wasn't a Daedra , and is infact the main Aedra in some Pantheons.

So the Aldmer are basically a very late generation of the Aedra right?
"Lorkhan made armies out of the weakest souls and named them Men, and they brought Sithis into every quarter."
Each level of god is a different subgradient, Anu and Padomay being the biggest, then Shor/Akatosh, then the other Aedra and Daedra, etc. The final subradient was the men and mer who will die and not have the strength to remember anything befroe the Dreamsleeve

"Auriel pleaded with Anu to take them back, but he had already filled their places with something else." - That's like the "spirits" pleading with Tall Papa (Ruptga) to take them back to Aetherius right? It's unbelievable how different yet similar those stories are xD And what did Anu replace them with?
Akatosh – who views the world like the elves do – wants to destroy Mundas and escape to what was before. his "father" Anu wouldn't help him do so, because reversal is still change and Anu is statis

"But his soul was gentler and granted Auriel his Bow and Shield, so that he might save the Aldmer from the hordes of Men" - Firstly, Isn't he a dragon? xD How can he have a bow and a shield? and isn't Akatosh/Auriel with menkind? or was it only when the Amulet of King formed?
Akatosh is Auri-El with the bit about killing Men removed. It was the Allesian Order's succsess at combining the merish and manly religions so thay could live peacefully. And Auriel isn't a dragon to the Altmer, although he is in most pantheons

""But when Trinimac and Auriel tried to destroy the Heart of Lorkhan it laughed at them. It said, "This Heart is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other." So Auriel fastened the thing to an arrow and let it fly long into the sea, where no aspect of the new world may ever find it."" - Wasn't it in Morrowind? And what the heck do aspects mean in this context? The races?
It landed in the sea and was the source of such power that it created mass volcanism around it, which solidified into Vvardenfell. and by aspect they mean that they didn't want anyone to ever find it, but the Dwemer were too awesome for Alduin

Trinimac was Aldmeri right? hence the Orcs being created by him being eaten right?
He was an Elnofey. Lowest subgradient above modern Mer and Aldmer. Although he would lie forever, he was weak, and Boethia had a good meal.

Other questions:
Ideal Masters - Who are they? How could they get a realm of themselves if they are not Daedra or godly etc.
Can i have the source this is from?

and how could Mehrunes Dagon write the Mysterium Xarxes O= He's huge! xD
He didn't. Xarxes did. Xarxes was a subgradient of Hermus Mora that was all the knowlege that was left over from the creation of Mundas, ie. what could've happened what didn't. This is why you can't give Mankar's speech any credit; it's based on what COULD have happened.

What does it mean when it's said that for example "Arkay was one of the very first spirits to "crystallize" after the start of time"?
He was one of the first to gain 'free' will

More =_=:
The Annotated Anuad:
So Nir became creation? Creating what exactly?
Nirni = female version of Shor

Hasn't time began when Akatosh was created?
Creation of Akatosh/Auriel/Alduin marks the beginning of time

Anu hid himself in the sun? Wasn't the sun created by Magnus?
it's a metaphore. Gravity hides itself in black holes. Anu and Padomay weren't conscious, but rather opposing forces of nature.


Didn't the Aedra create Nirn? Not Anu?
they did but the act of creating a stable "IS" is largely Anubic

More of Other Questions:
How is it possible The Battle of Duncreigh Bridge took place in 1E 1427? It was in the middle of the Dragon Break?
Also, in Dragon Break the time just freezes right? Does it mean that everything is still going on but the sun never sets etc. or does it mean that everything is just in Stasis mode, and then a 1008 years later everything just continues, feeling like nothing happened? How did they know it took 1008 years? What really happens when the "Dragon Breaks"?
Stuff happened during the fragon break. It just doesn't happen linearly to anyone who isn't high off moon sugar (quite litterally.) You might die one day, be born the next, and then have the middle of your life strewn around after your grandchildren's. Basically it is when Akatosh is dead and going through the dreamsleeve, since Aedra are mortal. They know it was 1008 years because Moon sugar is as much a part of a khajiiti diet as Aqui is the average brazillian's

I didn't understand The Warp in the West... So there were 44 City States and out of these 35 were just destroyed? or what? and How could it be that in 2 days it all happens? And how could " Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, Orsinium, and the Emperor all gained control of this artifact and used it to consolidate their political powers, somehow at the same exact time"?
The dragon was broken and all the events that could have happened, ie. Septims agent got stoped on, helped Sentinal expand, helped Orsiniums expand, Helped Anticlare expand, gave the Underking his soul back, etc.

So the Aurbis is where Padomay is? (It was said that Anu threw Padomay out of time, or does Aurbis have time as well?)
anu and Padomay are everywhere. they are forces of nature.

What are the Void, the un-Void and the Outer Realms eaxctly?
by now you should understand. Sithis is the void, Padomay is the Un-void, and an Outer realm is any non-Aedric Plane(t)

Why isn't the Serpent "guarded" and why does he "threaten" other stars? Is that Sithis/Padomay etc.?
It is Sep

What is Nu-Mantia?
The name of a Moth Priest and transending mortal existance

What is the void of Padomay? Is that where Padomay was thrown out of time into?
Padomay was 'thrown out of time' in that there is something –even if that something is just empty space – in all of Auribis.

What are spheres?
what a god really is

About Gods: are there really only 8 Aedra and 17 Daedra Princes? There are many Gods in other race's pantheons that don't have other names in other race's pantheons like the Red Guard's Onsi or the Nordic Orkey etc.?
I know Alessia combined all the beliefs into one but how did hse know there were these amount of gods? I'll understand if for other gods like Akatosh which has so many names, there are multiple personalities, that is, he is a World Eater for breakfast, a God of Time for lunch and a King of Cats for dinner, but what about the Yokudan HoonDing or Leki? or Kyne? etc.
Jist other gods and lesser spirits.

And how did they know their universe is built as it is?
It's pretty easy when you used to be a god

Let the headaches commence ;P

EDIT: Heavy breathing and Carpal tunnel is what this thread got me.

That is a hell of a lot of questions. I won't answer them all specifically, but I'll give you some general guidelines on how to approach lore and maybe that'll help you piece together some of the answers on your own.

First of all, throw out the real-world notion that two contradictory things cannot both be true. In the Elder Scrolls universe, they can and are. So every single one of those creation myths, by race? That's exactly how it happened. All of them. The similar-but-slightly-different deities? They're all the same being. And yet under the name Akatosh, the Dragon God could want something that Alduin would not. The Gods are a little crazy, Akatosh probably most of all.

The reason for this is rooted in another way to think about Mundus specifically: belief shapes reality. Akatosh used to be an almost direct mirror of Auriel until the Maruhkati decided they could change him. And they did, and Akatosh went from thinking that Mundus was a mistake and that Men are evil to wanting to protect it and being a benefactor of Men. Except that Alduin still wants to eat the world, and Auriel still hates Men. See?

As for you Dragon Break questions -- time doesn't freeze, it just frustrates causality. So you could give birth to your father and this would not be strange. I assume causality still exists to some degree but it is very much the exception rather than the rule. The Warp in the West is the name for another, perhaps smaller Dragon Break than the one that cause the 1008-year Middle Dawn. Because time was not flowing normally, six factions had control of a singular divine construct, Numidium, at the same time, and they were all able to use it to achieve the "Miracle of Peace."

I know this doesn't answer your questions but I hope it gives you the framework in which you can answer them on your own. Basically: get comfortable with contradiction. It's what makes this world tick.

taking the easy way out?

My answers Part 1


Nirn is the planet residing in Mundus. Also, it's the entire universe that resides in the gray maybe, as it's a combination of Anu and Padomay. Think of the Gray Maybe as this http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/3540/whatisthegraymaybe.jpg. Inside the gray part, you have Mundus, the Aetherius, and Oblivion. It's a giant mixture of the two forces of "IS" and "IS NOT." It's just that some parts have more "IS" and others more "IS NOT."

I'd say go with what the Annotated Anuad says:

Or you just use the other way of identifying how who became what with "the spirits who followed Auriel became the mer, and those who followed Shor became men." Personally, I prefer what the AA said.


The Annotated Anuad again...They, like the Ehlnofey (proto-men and mer), were the only other survivors of the creation of the world. However, they're not really related the Ehlnofey, and did not participate in their war (though they were greatly affected by it). In all likelihood, the argonians were created by the Hist because of the Ehlnofey's war, and the Hist needed some sort of sapient creature to act as protectors.

It used to be Ehlnofey and Hist. The Hist have remained, more or less, the same, while the Ehlnofey split into aldmer and men, who then split further, due to cultural differences, making chimer, altmer, bosmer, etcmer for the mer, and redguards, nords, nedics, and so on for men.

Yes. It's just that different groups of the protos believed in something else, which caused a split, and those groups formed other ideas and cultures, and those split between the original split.

My answers Part 2

Anu and Padomay came from the mad dreamer, the Godhead. When the Godhead's mind split into two, one that say "IS" (Anu) and the other that said "IS NOT" (Padomay), and it further fragments into what is now.

Concepts, ideas, spirits, etc.

See above. Not all concepts, ideas, and spirits really were significant enough to stay.

There was no such definition before Mundus, it was just et'Ada.

The Redguards think their Heaven is the Aetherius, or something like that.

Different name, same idea.
This myth also appears in the Monomyth. Think of it as their way of trying to explain the dual personalities of the gods.

No, more like mortals the daedra decide to play around with, or convert into worshiping them. Sheogorath just needed a mortal to become him, as only a mortal would be able to pull off such a feat. It helps having such freedoms, where as daedra don't really do.

You betcha.

Besides, I remembered having such a great experience putting the pieces together myself. I wouldn't rob anyone of that. I'll happily nudge in the right direction though.

My Answers Part 3

Anu and Padomay are opposites, and it's Anuiel and Sithis who are the souls of those two, respectively.

I think this is part of the answer you may be looking for

It's a world with limits.That's what the mer believe. And thus, are weak and pathetic of what they used to be.

"Lorkhan made armies out of the weakest souls and named them Men, and they brought Sithis into every quarter."

The mer see Auriel as their savior and future liberator. It's Akatosh who is the only pro-man here. Also, ignore forms right now, the Dawn was very loopy and crazy.

Yes it was launched into Morrowind, but it was assumed no one would find it (and boy were they wrong!). As for aspects, mortals. The mer do believe mortals are nothing more than diluted aedra.

An Aldmeri Hero God, who was worshiped by the aldmer, but was placed as #1 to those who followed him and later became the orsimer.

He could make himself as small as an ant if he wanted. The form of a daedroth can be whatever it wishes to be, but it's often what represents their sphere.

What's point is it being the god of death and birth if no such thing happened before? Without Mundus, Arkay is more like the god of being worthless.

My answers Part 4

No, time goes into a period of non-linearity, and becomes linear again when the Jills mend the god of time, rectifying the outcomes. For all intents and purposes, time still keeps going during a dragon break, but things tend to seem weird. For example, the Tribunal. They broke the dragon in order to make it so they were gods all along. Time didn't freeze when this happened, it was just twisted to produce a new present.

The power of the Numidium is so great, it often will kick the god of time in the balls and shoot him the bird while smoking. It just so happened that 8 groups got a hold of it, causing 8 different outcomes. In order to rectify this huge problem, the Jills made it so that Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, Orsinium, and the Blades were able to crush all the other places, and cancel each others Numidium's. With Mannimarco, the specifics are still fuzzy with him. Either 7 mortal Mannimarcos and 1 god Mannimarco was created, or there is just 1 Mannimarco, and he's the Necromancer's Moon that orbits Arkay. Either way, Mannimarco's Numidium became a pile of scrap metal. The Underking got his soul back, so that Numidium is gone. And there's the PC's Numidium, who got squished by it, and it probably went boom after that. This also means there were multiple Numidiums appearing at once. Hey, the Jills are good, but they're not miracle workers; that was the best they could do to make a somewhat linear line of events.

Gray Maybe.

Padomay is Anu's polar opposite. Where Anu is described as infinity, white, yes, etc, Padomay is described as 0, black, no, etc.

Concepts and ideas. Mehrunes Dagon is destruction, Sheogorath is Maddness, Akatosh is Time, Arkay is Birth and Death, etc.

First thing, the 9 is nothing but a political move. In reality, there are plenty of aedra, it's just than they're often mixed, matched, etc, depending on the pantheon. As for the daedra princes, we only know of 17, because they are the only 17 major concepts mortals can perceive. In all likelihood, there's a helluva lot more princes, but since mortals cannot perceive them, they may as well not exist.

The Nine is nothing more than the aldmer pantheon with a bit of nordic, and a few name changes. It was entirely a political move. In reality, if the nords were not there, the Cyrodiils would have worshiped the same gods as the altmer.


Didn't get everything, but this should be enough. Someone else can explain other stuff in more detail or offer a better explanation than what I gave.

Wow mate.
Thanks, A LOT

Now some more questions:
"Humans were made after, yes. But they know what happen and some of them work to alter it. " - They want to alter their creation? Why?

The Godhead's dream? Who's/ What's the Godhead? Where can I read about him? and what is his dream? (I take it though that his dream must be the beginning and the end am I right? from Anu and Padomay to the very ending of time and space? Alpha and Omega sort of thing?)


About "As he entered every aspect of Anuiel, Lorkhan..." - Every aspect of Anuiel? Is that like multiple dimensions? Or parallel worlds?
It was written that Lorkhan entered every aspect of Anuiel, what does it suppose to mean? What are Anuiel's aspects?

About the Ideal Masters:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Planes_of_Oblivion
Under "Realms not belonging to a specific Daedra"
Are they Daedra as well?

Otherwise all is understood, and I'm pretty impressed, thank you very much again, for not only giving me this information, but also for showing me again how nice people are in this forum


EDIT:
WOW WOW WOW again, I didn't see there was two other answers, thank you you two as well!!!

BTW you were talking about ideas Don't Forget This, is this why the Pantheon was combined into one? Alessia had an idea which caused this all to happen?

Haha Hellmouth your Numidium explanation made me laugh so loud! xD but:

"First thing, the 9 is nothing but a political move. In reality, there are plenty of aedra, it's just than they're often mixed, matched, etc, depending on the pantheon." - But there are only 8 Planets, no?

and Who or what are Jills?

And also about ideas: that's basically what controls and creates everything?

oh. those ideal masters. I'v never played Battlespire, but im pretty sure they are just super-powerfull liches that made a realm for themselves wither with Daedric assistance or with their own power.

Alright! Thanks again!

You are very helpful!

I can't believe there is this whole awesome amazing universe created for this game!! It's really strange that with the amount of lore there are not many TES novels O=

Some aedra gave themselves up entirely, like Y'ffre, while others only gave parts. As for the jills, they're female dragons, time fixer upers, and consorts to the god of time. Hey, he needs to get laid every so often.

Where can I find more info about the Jiils?
Was the last part a joke or does he really have to get laid? (Oh oh I've got a good one! Akatosh really did inherit his dad's appetite eh? )xD
And what does The God of Time getting laid with the Jiils produce?

Now some more questions:
"Humans were made after, yes. But they know what happen and some of them work to alter it. " - They want to alter their creation? Why?
Most Mer want to destroy Mundas so that they can all transcend mortality and return to their god-forms. most Humans kinda like living.


The Godhead's dream? EVRYTHING Who's/ What's the Godhead? every noun, verb, adjective, preopsition, article, or conjunction Where can I read about him? http://www.imperial-library.info/content/michael-kirkbrides-textsand what is his dream? once again, everything. The Et'ada are his subconscious giving form to thoughts; destruction becomes a big stompy red wolverine. (I take it though that his dream must be the beginning and the end am I right? from Anu and Padomay to the very ending of time and space? Alpha and Omega sort of thing?)


About "As he entered every aspect of Anuiel, Lorkhan..." - Every aspect of Anuiel? Is that like multiple dimensions? Or parallel worlds?
It was written that Lorkhan entered every aspect of Anuiel, what does it suppose to mean? What are Anuiel's aspects?

Every aspect of Anuiel kinda means time. Shor entered limitless time and added to it the limit of space.

So the Elder Scroll Universe is basically a Sims Game or a Puppet Show?
Technically then we are a part of it O= damn :S

You said it's the Godhead's dream, I don't want to know what happens when he wakes up O=

So now I get it! Time and Space xD They had to make it complicated eh?

EDIT:
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-thirty-six-lessons-vivec-sermon-twenty-nine

What is this about? Scriptures of what Numbers? (don't tell me The presence of deaf witness)

And why does each Sermon except of the last one ends with The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. ending of which/what words?

Lesson Twenty-Nine is code. "The ending of the words is ALMSIVI" is basically "amen."

Also, ALMSIVI is the first few letters of the Tribunal's names.

To me this is great topic :thumbsup:

@ OP: Thankyou for asking these questions. I have wanted to do something similar,but feared i would be jumped on or dismissed for such a topic/so many questions.
I thought there were some great questions there. I also want to thank those that answered most,if not all questions,taking the time to answer so many questions should be commended/appreciated/thanked....especially "hellmouth" and "don't forget this".

Not everyone is the same. As one poster said "he found it fun to learn on his own"....thats fine,but not everyone can do that. Sometimes frustration takes over,which in turn = no fun.
It's like learning a new job. You would rather not be thrown in the deep end,and left to struggle without guidance. You expect to be trained/ or showed the basics.....from there,you learn quicker/and understand better,but at the same time,find out how to make the job your own. Even though you have been shown how to do the job,eventually you make the job your own and work your way.

I've enjoyed reading this topic thus far. Some things are just easier to digest,when asked directly...but that does not mean people can't think on their own. In fact,it gives them more confidence,because they have now understood something they once didn't...thus that makes it easier for them to come to their own conclusion,because the they now understand what was there before. Hope that makes sense. Great topic,and it's nice to see people put in the effort to help/guide others...kudos to you :thumbsup:

Hey, anyone who dismisses a topic as rubbish is being a dike. Unless that topic was started by you, st frantic, then dismissing it is perfectly acceptable. :whistling:

Plus, it's nice to have some activity go on here, and have a larger lore community.

@Megaton Hammerstein Code for what exactly?

Thanks again, everyone for showing so much effort! You really helped me here!

I love this thread

I am sure even the developers will envy the knowledge here

How many numbers are there in the lesson? How many lessons are there?

Yea I figured this out... But what does it mean? Are these like chapter names for each Sermon or what?

The first number is the chapter that you take the the word of the second number from. The words in sermon twenty nine are largely superfluous for most purposes.