I'm at the observe Arniel's experiement. However Arniel has fallen slightly into a crevasse, he is sunk to his hips or so.. and can't seem to complete the experiment. It's not progressing, he's asked me to stay and observe.. but mostly he looks sad and pathetic and cold. Need an EMT! and we may need an air lift squad.

if this is tied in with main storyline game.. I'm sorta screwed. Need bug fix to re-center his character out of the snow.

Maybe he...

*Puts on sunglasses*

Took an arrow to the knee?

YYYYEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHH

I'll hazard a guess you're playing it on a console rather than PC?

When I first found him outside here in the snow, I sorta bumped him into the hole. He's much deeper now, but .. don't look at me, I swear I didn't do it.. well maybe I did I do have to get close to him to talk. Ok it's my fault... I'm the reason Arniel is gonna lose his toes to frostbite.. he's lucky if that's all he loses. I wish I could post a screen shot.. it's LOL.. cept for not being able to progress.

I'm playing on PC

Open the console (~ key)

Click on him so you see his ID appear at the top.

Type:

disable [Hit Enter]

then type:

enable [Hit Enter]

That should reset his AI.

Ok.. I''ve done that, took couple tries but he's up above crevasse now.
Quest Progress: Observe Arniel's experiement
Arniel... is not doing anything or talking. oh crap lets see if I can get back to prior to giving him the dagger.. dang.. might be too late

Ok after pulling him out of the snow one time, after I had already handed him the item. I went back to my earlier saved game, shot a bear in the butt for the second time. and now before handing him the dagger I'm trying.. to get him out of the snow. it took about 8x of disable / enable... to get him out of the snow before... but now... just about the time I see his feet lift out of the snow.. he falls back in....

.... this crevasse needs to be outlined as a nowalk space for Mr Arniel.... or give him snowshoes

Could always bring up the console, click on the npc (make sure you are close to him so you aren't selecting some environmental effect) and type resurrect. Should reset him as well.

post-item give... I pulled him out... but quest seemed broke (no progression or interaction)
pre-item give .. I can't get him out of the snow... Should it really be taking me multiple times of typing disable / enable?

I'll try the ressurect

Not getting anywhere with him...... in fact he seems to be moving backward... I definately have his name on my screen (talk to)... I'm in danger now of falling into that crevasse with him..which would push him further.. (he may in fact be on the.. outside barrier now)...

feh...

Can't you use the placeatme. command? Just get away from the crevasse and type that with his ID and he should spawn at you...

Strangled if I can go to a saved game I'll try that. Was unfamiliar with the command. Do you guys know this from beta testers? I think he's altogether off my map. I decided to go ahead and forget him for a while, cuz it's a rare day off and I've spent a ton of it with support calls from work, and then this issue on my game.

I went back to check on him and his character is altogether gone ( I still have not given him the courier's item).... And I'm wondering if he was left in a disabled state.. or what.... feh... this is really stopping the fun

should have used life alert

Try the console command kill, and then resurrect. It should move him. Well, in Oblion it did, not sure about Skyrim.

How do I get his objectID? I keep getting objectID not found, when I try placeatme Arniel or placeatme Arniel Gane or placeatme "Arniel Gane"
... Anyone know?

Use:

player.placeatme 0001C19D

P.S.

Use the wiki's for IDs.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Arniel_Gane

could not parse this line player.placeatme 0001C19D

ok..... soo varied the instructions some... did this

disable enter exited the console

turned in quest as we slid down the muntain side... graphics all glitchy... ended at the bottom... But I'm going to guess the location matters for his actually demonstrating the experiment?? Anyone know? he's busy but not moving, standing there with crossed arms...

Reload a past save game.

The far easier way to move an actor is to stand where you want them to be moved to, open the console, left click on the actor in question, then type "moveto player" . If nothing happens you might have gotten some part of the background instead of the actor (the code that determines what you actually clicked on is notoriously flaky), just try clicking various parts of the person to see if the number at the top of the console (the active object) changes.

I have to do this all the time to get Mjoll past insurmountable knee-high obstacles.

Messing around enabling/disabling/killing/resurrecting can mess up other things and should be avoided unless you're intimately familiar with the script they are trying to process.

I was just about to mention what Momaw did. I had forgot that command until I just went to look for something else and it was mentioned in the article.

OMG!... So it's an indoors Quest LOL....

So I disabled him, fell off the cliff together... and I shut down the game, but came back and he's inside as he was meant to be. Yay!... completed. Thank you all! There is no way I would have known without spending a ton more time googling, that he was supposed to be indoors inside the Mage College the whole time, instead of at the base of the mountain. I don't think there was a far easier way for me to do this, since I couldn't be clicked on him and the location where he was meant to be at the same time. Just hit on it by accident. I would have to guess the game on launch reenables the actors (player), that I left disabled and reset him for me?

Sweet. Glad it sorted itself.