Help me choose a side in the civil war.

Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:01 pm

I have a feeling that the end of the Thalmor and the Thalmor storyline is going to come from within the Dominion.

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Irmacuba
 
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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:29 am

TES6:Alinor

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Arnold Wet
 
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:31 pm

The quest line has virtually no impact on the world of skyrim. In the end, it boils down to: do you want Tullius's armour or Ulfric's sweaty clothes?

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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:53 am

Hell I'd love Ulfric's clothes. But I won't betray the Stormcloaks for that.

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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:52 am

I seem to remember that you can actually get a set which looks similar, think it's called thanes clothes or something.

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Sista Sila
 
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:54 pm

Yeah, it has different colours though. I believe you have to kill somebody for it.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:45 pm

Ulfric has a completely unique armor: JarlUlfric. The male version is the one Ulfric wears, the female version is exactly the same as JarlClothes2. I don't remember their actual name or who have JarlClothes2. JarlClothes2 on the other hand also has 2 versions, Ulfric's should be the first version.

As suggested, they're clothes worn by Jarls. They're actually flagged as playable, but since the Jarls are essential and essential people can't be pickpocketed, not to mention that nobody sells the damn clothes, you pretty much can't get them. I don't know of anyone that wears one of those and can be killed/pickpocketed
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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:39 am

Thane Bryling has them, you can pickpocket them off her after a Dark Brotherhood quest. Not sure which one.
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:21 pm

Because, as Tullius tells us, Mede is about to go to war with the Dominion and that's part of why he's come to Skyrim.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:49 pm

On one hand, the Imperial Legion did fight the Thalmor to a stand still..But on the other, it is weaker because of it and thus a poor thing to place one's faith upon. It's therefor a poor idea to rest one's faith on either Skyrim or the Empire in this scenario. After all, the Civil War is just a puppet war orchestrated by the Thalmor.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:37 pm

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Bryling But yeah, she loses her essential status after the DB quest. Bound Until Death.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:23 pm

Two words: Thalmor provocateurs. The highly visible justiciars that basically are wearing "I am a [censored], thu'um me" are far from the only operatives the Thalmor has. Remember that they out-cloak'n'dagger'd the BLADES. As long as they exist, they are a threat. Even if they are deposed from Alinor. A thoroughness like the purge they carried out on the Blades is needed to truly end the Thalmor threat, and for that to really be effective, it needs to start in the Isles.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:11 pm

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:46 pm

All Depends on how long they want the Thalmor storyline to continue, or if they'll even bother with it. Although I don't think it's a coincidence that the real leader of the Thalmor, Todd Howard, renamed the 'Summerset Isles' to 'Alinor.' 'TES Summerset Isles' sounds like a kids go-kart racing game while 'TES Alinor' sounds like an epic fantasy RPG.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:31 pm

"Alinor" is the name of the capital city.

And it could easily just be "TES6: Summerset".

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:15 pm


:drool: Oui oui, mon cheri!
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:53 pm


The place was named Alinor until Tiber Septim unleashed the powers of Gundam, conquered the place, and have it renamed to Summerset Isle.

Why Tiber Septim didn't build a property empire in such a well-named place is for another discussion

After Thalmor took it back from the meek 4th Empire, they renamed the place back to Alinor
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:29 pm

If it's in Alinor in the next game, I predict that the Thalmor will have at least been deposed and a more friendly government installed in the Isles (probably an exiled branch of the Alinor royal family). The Thalmor are simply too xenophobic and despotic to allow anyone but vetted True Alinor Loyalists go around the Isles (and even then not unchecked... "Ihre Papiere, bitte"). Anyone suspected of being a dissident, to say nothing of expatriates, would be out of the question, and may very well be in danger of being black-bagged. It'd just be too restrictive for an open-world game.

Not to say they couldn't be an enemy. They'd be deposed but not eradicated. But if TES6 is to believably take place in Summerset, the Thalmor can't be in power.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:39 pm

OP, if you're still having trouble deciding, I suggest writing down the main points of what YOU want to see as a result of the Civil War.

What do YOU value, and what do YOU hope to achieve by fighting.

Lay down these objectives and try to consider which side would better work towards these goals.

As I said before, try to think ASIDE from the individual figures in charge of both sides.

You don't HAVE to be fighting for them - even if they may see it that way.

Also, have you played either of The Witcher games? If not, I couldn't recommend them more.

Others who have played them will get what I mean (particularly with the 2nd) regarding the moral ambiguity.

Of course that greyness is literally everywhere throughout the game, but I'm talking more specifically about the political leaders in the game.

You can make different choices about who you support, but the fact is that all of them have massively unsavory aspects (I'm trying to avoid going into spoilers here).

It forces you to put your opinions of the individual leaders aside, and try to think about what's best for the people/kingdom.

Anyways, not to go off on a tangent, but I've kept thinking about The Witcher in this regard as a great example.

Also, remember that if you're concerned about 'which side has a better chance of taking down the Thalmor', I like to remember the fact that whichever side you choose obviously has the DRAGONBORN gunning for them - a demi-god-ish individual who potentially has dragons at their beck-and-call. ;)

Hope this helps!

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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:44 am


It'd probably involve you being a Thalmor agent experiencing a very bad day and go back stab them by becoming a double-agent.

But I get your point. Can't make a TES game if the area hates Redguards, Imperials, Argonians, Nords, Bretons and Dunmers. That's... what, half of TES races?
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:10 pm

TES VI is going to be set in the Summerset Isles. Mark my words :D

About the CW, I've already explained like 3 or 4 times that those accusations of "racism" for Ulfric or the Stormcloaks are just stupid. But seemingly people prefer to stick to their preconceived ideas rather than to learn something.

I repeat it again:

- Wanting to defend your own people, country and culture against foreign influence = NOT racism (Stormcloaks).

- Believing your race is superior to any other and wanting all the others to be subyugated = racism (Thalmor).

Learn the difference already, would you?

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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:49 am

Unless there's a Nord invasion, I hope to the gods it isn't in summerset. It'll likely just be a twice as sunny elven looking Cyrodiil.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:52 pm

I love the Dunmer, too, and real Dunmer would not sit around whining for Nords to give them a handout- especially when they already gave them an entire quarter of a walled city when they could have just as easily shut their borders to refugees from Red Year. 200 years on and now some rabble rousers want to call this "injustice." Actually I take that back, it's very much like Dunmer to [censored] about everything. But that doesn't make the rabble rousers correct in their assumptions. Ulfric is maintaining a status quo that was meant to give the Dunmer sovereignty over themselves. It's not racist. It's not even a policy he created.

About the caravans: Only one person accuses Ulfric of not caring about non-Nord caravans, and yet when I get a quest from Jorleif to kill a giant who's attacking travelers, there's a flattened Khajiit outside his camp. That could be a coincidence, or you know, Brunwulf could be wrong. He likes to think of himself as the "great white hope," it's how he deals with his guilt over the Great War, but he changes nothing if he becomes jarl.

The Argonians are a sad case, but I think putting them out on the docks was a stopgap to help limit the social tensions in the city while a war is going on. The only one who says racist things about them is a Dunmer.
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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:16 am

I think a Nord - Redguard invasion of Alinor is just what the Thalmor need in order to cool them down a little.

In fact, having in mind they're pretty weak now, it'd be a pretty good strike against their morale.

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Post » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:46 am

I'd rather that over the entire Northern half of the game map looking like the state with the #1 Suicide Rate in America like we saw in Skyrim.

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