When does she say that? She does whatever he tells her to, in Season Unending that is most clearly apparent.

He says he's a king's man. If Ulfric wins the war, he's making weapons for Stormcloaks and says it's all the same to him.

They did? The Markarth Incident is one year after the end of the war. If they were involved in setting it up, then they were at work right afterward. Even if they're not telling the truth about that, it was only shortly later that they intervened. Talk to Igmund.

It was veterans, not generals, and General Decianus was acting against orders.

Again, this is not true. All humans and elves are descended from the Ehlnofey, and the Nords mixed with Nedes, but Nedes =/ Nords. This is falsehood spread in early PGE's and was controverted by developers Kurt Kuhlmann and Michael Kirkbride. And again, it doesn't matter.

So what, the Emperor said he had his doubts and he didn't believe it. Thats hardly predicting the future. When you appear its more like hindsight.

Like me saying "I knew you'd do that!" Even when I really didn't but rather, I just wasn't surprised.

1. Congratulations, you've managed to claim bulldung. During the Great War, there were indeed Legionaries immediately discharged by a Legion general so they can stay in Hammerfell and help, the author of that book (an IMPERIAL general) mentions this. HOWEVER, he never mentioned those "discharged" soldiers during the 5 years of war Hammerfell fought that lead to the 2nd treaty of Stros M'Kai, and he titled that section "Hammerfell fought on alone". Those legionaries would've made a very good point to dispel the notion that Hammerfell can defeat the Thalmor alone, I wonder why the author didn't include them? Perhaps because Hammerfell actually indeed fought alone?

2. I do not see the relevance of "out of how many". Bruma is the only place where the Nords are as close to Skyrim Nords as they can get, it's basically "Little Skyrim". Claiming that "they're probably insane" is like claiming "Titus Mede II is probably into being a slave of Thalmor"

3. And both races are related to Ehlnofey. You're claiming that Dunmers are Altmers just because Dunmer was originally Altmer. I don't see the point of claiming historical link, by the time Talos came to Cyrodiil, "Imperials" were already a race

maybe back during its prime, but not so these days...

the Dark Brotherhood never truly regrouped after the events during the Oblivion Crisis...

Only one of Cyrodiils Sanctuarys were still active, the Black-hand was virtually wiped out except for two (meaning the Black-hand was missing three of its members (or fingers) and their silencers)...

the DB we see in Skyrim is a fractured mess, not have recovered from Mathieus betrayal, no black hand to rule it, and throwing the tenets in the fireplace...


the DB was once a group to be feared, but since Mathieu Bellamonts betrayal, they have only been getting weaker and weaker..

Nedes are proto-Nords according to lore. If there are sources that claim otherwise, I haven't seen them. Source please?

Probably by http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Boethiah?

In Morrowind you got the blade by restoring his shrine. Murder is not a requirement per se.

1. still does not stop the fact that the Empire did try to help

2. Are all Nords racist because Galmor's brother and a couple others in windhelm are? Also, once again, they seem like the sort of people who would try to "imperialize" Morrowind.

??? what is that supposed to show? it is the voice character for Boethiah, that is it. In what way that have anything to do with Titus Mede?

And in Oblivion the Black Hand survives Titus Mede certainly didn't get the Goldbrand in 3E, because he wasn't even alive by then. All we know is that now Boethiah wants sacrifice to appease it. Perhaps there are indeed other ways, but you need to remember that just because Goldbrand shines in golden color, doesn't mean it was provided by any of the Nine Divines

We know that he wants sacrifice from the Dragonborn. From what I can gather each request of a Prince towards a chosen individual is unique and tailored to that person specifically.

No, it certainly wasn't a gift from the divines and more than likely it was a dark deed that Mede had to perform to gain the blade.

Maybe he sacrificed himself? That might explain why he was so completely calm and accepting of his death.

Interesting theory but unfortunately we have too little information one way or the other. :/

He had the Blade before he died.

1) the black hand surviving is questionable...

2) Boethia wants a sacrifice because what she feels like.. the past titles had different much less evil requirements..

Obviously a certain type of pact was implied, by which he would accept death in the future for glory today.

Obviously, what i meant was that he made a Pact with Boethiah that he would get the blade and it would get his life in return after he used it, maybe after an unspecified amount of time.

Boethiah is probably the most "unstable" and unpredictable of the princes. The Dunmer consider it one of the "nicer" princes, but then we see it ask for things that make you wonder how it got that position.

I gave the sources, Michael Kirkbride and Kurt Kuhlmann. Here are the quotes:

Michael Kirkbride:
"And for the last time (uh huh), Nedes != Atmorans. That's just shoddy scholarship from a bygone regime."
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride

Kurt Kuhlmann posting as Hasphat Antabolis:

TIL header: On the origin of Nedes

"The usual Imperial arrogance. The hoary old 'Out of Atmora' theory has been widely discredited (no reputable archaeologist would publicly support it these days), but the Imperial Geographers continue to beat the drum of the Nordic Fatherland in the best tradition of the Septim Empire. They seem to think that the imprimature of officialdom gives their outdated scholarship added weight -- which, unfortunately, it appears to in the eyes of the ever-gullible public which continues to snap up the latest Pocket Guides along with the rest of their Imperial Certified pablum. (HA)"

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/kurt-kuhlmann-posts

Thank you.

1. The "Empire" never did, the same "Empire" tried to pull all troops from Hammerfell. A Legion general did, by getting creative and getting around orders. This very same "Empire" later tries to save himself by pissing off two of his best sources of warriors and never once try to explain the circumstances. Ironically, the very same "Empire" decided to go to Skyrim because his cousin was murdered, not before when Talos was first getting banned.

2. I never saw them as racist, so I don't think that point works for me. The Imperial priests see Skyrim Nords as ignorants and heathens, unlike the Nords in Windhelm that vehemently disagrees with the Dunmer for not helping their war despite living inside their walls. The difference is so big I didn't even think you'll go there.

3. Goldbrand is the artifact of Boethiah

He'd get Goldbrand and Boethiah still haven't claimed his life after 20 years? Mede better make a very good Dremora Lord if all those years are worth the wait for Boethiah (and frankly, it's not)

2. Rolff Stone-fist is absolutely racist, he outright admits it, same with some of the other nords in Windhelm. As i have said twenty times already, they seem like the kind of priests who would try to go to Morrowind and "imperialize" it

3. and???????? so what? Boethiah is not ALWAYS in need of a sacrifice, what it wants is completely unpredictable and literally turns a 90 degree or complete 180 in every game it appears.

Mede II was granted Goldbrand, because he was a bad-ass. Either that, or he participated in Boethiah's tournament at his shrine in the Valus Mountains.

the two are not mutually exclusive

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