Help - Crashing while wait.sleep not because of saving : IV

» Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:56 am

Hi ... hope someone can help.

I am crashing when I wait or sleep... it has nothing to do with saving, since I have turned off saving for those events, and I can save/autosave/quicksave just fine.

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00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.1.4]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.5]0D  UOPS Additional Changes.esp0E  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0F  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.3]++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp12  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]13  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]18  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]19  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp1A  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.35]1B  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.35]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]++  Symphony of Violence.esp1C  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp1D  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]1E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.35]1F  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]20  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]21  kuerteeCleanUp.esp22  P1DmenuEscape.esp23  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]24  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]25  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]26  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]27  DLCHorseArmor.esp28  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]29  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]2A  DLCOrrery.esp2B  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2C  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]2D  DLCVileLair.esp2E  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]**  Lair_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]**  VileLair_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]2F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp30  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]**  Mehrunes_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]31  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]32  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]33  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp**  Armamentium female.esp34  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp35  DLCThievesDen.esp36  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]37  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]38  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]**  ThievesDen_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]39  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]3A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]3B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]3C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp3D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]3E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]3F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]40  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]41  OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-BirthSigns.esp  [Version 1.33]42  OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp  [Version 1.33]43  OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp  [Version 1.33]44  OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp  [Version 1.33]45  OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp  [Version 1.33]46  OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp  [Version 1.33]47  OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp  [Version 1.33]48  OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Potions.esp  [Version 1.33]49  OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]4A  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]4B  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]4C  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]4D  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]4E  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoSpiders.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoWyverns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]++  MMM4OOO&FCOM- Slofs Horse & DLC Armor.esp++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]**  Fransfemale.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp51  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]52  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp53  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]54  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.30]**  Battlehorn_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]55  DLCFrostcrag.esp56  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]57  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.7]58  OCOD+FrostcragSpire Patch.esp59  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]5A  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp5B  Knights.esp5C  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp**  Knights_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]5D  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]5E  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]5F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]60  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]61  xulTheHeath.esp62  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]63  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]64  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]65  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]66  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]67  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]68  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]69  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]6A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]6B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]6C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]6D  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]6E  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]6F  xulPantherRiver.esp70  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]71  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]72  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]73  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]74  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]75  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]76  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]77  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]78  OOO-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 1.1]79  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]7A  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]7B  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]7C  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7D  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7E  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.4]7F  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.09]80  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 2.0]81  Open Cities Reborn.esp  [Version 1.1.5]82  OCR + OOO Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.1]83  Sounds of Cyrodiil - OC Reborn Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]84  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]85  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]86  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]87  Better Dungeons.esp88  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]89  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp8A  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]8B  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]8C  Scouter.esp8D  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]8E  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4.2]8F  RealisticForceHigh.esp90  Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp91  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]92  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]93  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]94  MidasSpells.esp95  OC+Midas Magic Patch.esp96  Bundlement.esp  [Version ision]97  nGCD.esp98  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp99  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]9A  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]9B  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]9C  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]9D  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]9E  Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]9F  bgMagicLightningbolt.espA0  MiniMap.espA1  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.35]A2  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:44 am

Don't think it's the cause of your issue but you should skip all the OOO optionals you have under its esp. They are for the lite 1.33 version, so 1. you don't need them for the full 1.35 version as they're already included and 2. they might mess things up as they are made for a previous OOO release.

» Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:00 pm

Arkngt X, according to you, is the OOO cobl plugin compatible with version 1.35?

» Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:47 am

That's a good question. It's not compatible with the latest FCOM release so should be skipped in the load order above, but I'm not 100% sure how it is with it and OOO 1.35. My guess is that it's not compatible as the latest OOO and FCOM releases were developed in tandem with a Cobl release that never got released.

» Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:34 am

Thanks for telling - I hope that someone will be able to shed some lights in the matter someday...

» Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:42 am

They came in the OOO 1.35 package ...

» Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:58 pm

I can't tell from the load order, but do you have anything that prevents you from healing while sleeping? I have a mod called Less Healthful Waiting that alters how you regain health while sleeping, and prevents healing while waiting. I had to change to the esp that altered waiting only, because the sleeping one conflicted with Add Actor Values and caused the occasional crash when I slept.

» Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:59 pm

Well, getting rid of the extra OOO and Cobl took care of the waiting/sleeping crash, so no idea what exactly was causing it, but its gone. Without Cobl, it isn't really FCOM, is it? It's FOM ;-)

» Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:36 am

nono it's fcom.
F= Francesco
C = war Cry
O = oscuro
M = martigen

» Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:38 pm

Nice that you got it sorted out. Yeah, they come in the optional add-ons download. Sort of stupid to include the lite addons, but there are still some addons in it that are fine to use (and the team was planning to release a lite version of 1.35 at the time). You might want to read the OOO/FCOM readmes/install instructions when installing them. :wink:

» Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:59 am

RTFM? I try to avoid that whenever possible ;-)