Ok I think I have done something wrong. Specifically I wonder about my installation of OOO. I installed 1.3 as an exe. Then I loaded the plugin 1.32 updater. Then I loaded the plugin 1.33 patch.

Was that wrong? The problem is crashing. At load up...

I also have Race Rebalancing Light version and I believe I installed that by the directions...
I also have OBSE and I believe I installed that correctly (crashing from both oblivion launcher and obse launcher)

My mod order list is

Oblivion.esm
OOO.esm
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Living Economy.esp
OOO.esp
OOO-Waterweeds.esp
Harvest[Flora].esp
Harvest[Flora]-DLC.esp
bgBalancingEVCore.esp
Living Economy-Items.esp
RealisticLeveling.esp
TheLostSpires.esp

Skip all those. Install http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1108040-relz-oscuros-oblivion-overhaul-133/ and patch it to 1.34 Beta 5.

I tried reinstalling and then using your omod for direct installation of OOO. It didn't work, but I think its because something ELSE is wrong. See I had backed up my oblivion folder. AFTER installing oblivion (of course) AND installing the patch for oblivion. And installing frostcrag spire. So I copied the oblivion folder to a backup.

When my reinstallation didn't work. I uninstalled mod manager and deleted whatever was in the oblivion directory. Then I replaced the backup into the oblivion directory and re-backed up.

Guess what? It crashed on load...

Does that make sense? It was the state of the oblivion folder after 1) installing from disk 2) installing patch that I found by googling. North american version of the patch for oblivion (I don't have SI). 3) Installing frostcrag spire from purchase here at a stickied marketplace that is a sticky here on the forum under general discussion..

I know my disk was formerly ok because I have played oblivion on it before..
I assume the patch was legitimate, but not 100% sure
I assume the frostcrag spire is good

Any ideas?

Try deleting Oblivion.ini in Document/My Games/Oblivion

Theres a saves folder, an oblivion an blend settings plugin, and a render info document

I wonder if I have something from previous installations? Should I delete everything run ccleaner? Then do a search for oblivion in my finder and delete everything it finds?

I tried deleting the saves in the documents and it didn't help.

What do you mean by oblivion and blend settings plugin? What is the file extension? If you are sure there is not an Oblivion.ini then I guess you could copy Oblivion_default.ini from your Oblivion directory and paste it in Documents/My Games/Oblivion then rename it to Oblivion.ini

Hmm there was a saves folder 1 a document called render info 2... And then the things I called plugins look like sheets of paper with a gear. I thought that meant it is a plugin. They are named renderer and blend setting

I thought you said in an earlier post that one was named Oblivion? If there is, delete that and try to start the game again.

your right renerer is a document. Its oblivion and blend setting (which have the gears).


I tried to copy the Oblivion default (it says configuration setting) from the my computer/programfiles/bethesda/oblivion directory into the mydocuments/mygames/oblivion directory. The same thing happened when launching the game. It crashed.

Oblivion creates a directory tree called "My Games\Oblivion\" under your "My Documents" folder, wherever that is on your particular computer setup.

Go in that folder. Look for something called "Oblivion.ini". Delete the said file. Oblivion regenerates it when it starts up. Did you change your PC components lately (Graphics card, display resolution etc?). If so, before running Oblivion for the first time, insert the Oblivion CD, choose the settings option in the menu that shows up, and allow Oblivion to change settings based on your setup. Then try to start Oblivion... hopefully it does.
EDIT: If it doesn't, maybe you have a missing master (does the crash occur without the Oblivion game menu showing up?) - in that case, you didn't install one of the mods correctly... You can wither download Wrye Bash to track the missing master, or just start installing Oblivion from scratch considering your setup is still new. Doing it properly right now will save a lot of headaches later.

Also, for the OOO install, use the latest OOO as Arkngt mentioned above. You should also read http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=preparing_for_mods to better understand mods as well.

EDIT again: the latest patches (official) can be found here on http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_patches.htm.

I only have 4 things in my MyDocuments/MyGames/Oblivion folder

1 saves folder (with nothing in it since I deleted it all)
2 rendererInfo document
3 a sheet of paper with a gear symbol with the label oblivion. Clicking on that it is not a folder but instead reveals code.

[General]
SStartingCell=

SStartingCellY=
SStartingCellX=
SStartingWorld=

STestFile10=
STestFile9=
STestFile8=
STestFile7=
STestFile6=
STestFile5=
STestFile4=
STestFile3=
STestFile2=
STestFile1=

bEnableProfile=0
bDrawSpellContact=0
bRunMiddleLowLevelProcess=1
iHoursToSleep=3
bActorLookWithHavok=0
SMainMenuMusicTrack=special\tes4title.mp3
bUseEyeEnvMapping=1
bFixFaceNormals=0
bUseFaceGenHeads=1
bFaceMipMaps=1
bFaceGenTexturing=1
bDefaultCOCPlacement=0

for example

4) another gear symbol thing this time labled Blend Settings

It seems you have turned off your extensions in Windows Explorer.

In your Windows Explorer (any folder), Go to Tools>Folder Options>View tab, and look for a checkbox next to "Hide extensions for known file types". Uncheck that box. Now you will see all extensions.

Once you click Apply and OK, then you will see that he above file that you mentione das #3 is indeed "Oblivion.ini" (the fiel extension will show up). You can delete it, and let Oblivion regenerate it.

Also, see my other suggestions in my earlier post that was edited later.

yes deleting that ini did the trick. I reinstalled all the mods and its also working with them. Thanks everyone!